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Blog Entry# 17145
Posted: Dec 29 2009 (17:53)

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Dec 29 2009 (17:53)   09051/Mumbai Central - Bhusaval Special Fare Special
 
Kapadia
Kapadia    2837 blog posts
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The fares for these shatabdi type trains to Surat from Bandra / Vasai Rd are very very high. There is distortion in fare structure within these train also.
The fare from Vasai Rd to Surat is 370/- as against fare of Rs. 410/- from Virar to Surat in this spl train starting from Bandra.
Look at this also :-
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Surat (in Bandra-Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 410/-
Virar to Surat (in Vasai Rd -Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 365/-
Vasai Rd to Surat (in Vasai Rd - Surat Shatabdi) >> Rs. 370/-
Who will spend such exhorbitant amount ? Are there any food / snakcs facilities provided in the train like in Shatabdi .
From all counts, the fare structure would go against the favorable response of the train and in this one month experimetal period only the Rly would incur revenue loss for low occupancy and would eventually be closed after one month period and seems that they will not be regularised at all.
These short distance trains would be converted into Jan Shatabdis so more passengers can take lower fare benefit for the purpose of travel.
WR ought to have fixed fares at least in comparison to Shatabdi train fare structure and also exclude cost of all services which are provided in Shatabdis and would not be provided to that extent in these trains.
Only emergency passengers would take this train and not the public at large.

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Dec 30 2009 (11:30)
Manish   9236 blog posts
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I think this fare difference may be due to the fact that in Bandra-Surat Shatabdi, they may be serving both snacks and lunch while in Vasai-Surat Shatabdi only dinner may be served. This is only an assumption, not sure of it.
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Dec 30 2009 (11:50)
Jitesh Chhabra   4931 blog posts
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Yes this is the right answer. The fare difference is due to the food served during the journey. Dont make it a issue.
you can check this for 2005 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp (Fare is 450 for CC)
but for 2006 KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC )
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KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 535 for CC)
2011

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Dec 30 2009 (11:54)
Jitesh Chhabra   4931 blog posts
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Yes this is the right answer. The fare difference is due to the food served during the journey. Dont make it a issue.
you can check this for 2005 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp (Fare is 450 for CC)
but for 2006 KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC )
also check for
2012
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KLK NDLS Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 535 for CC)
2011 NDLS KLK Shatabdi Exp ( Fare is 465 for CC)
Here you can see the diff while the trains are running on same route, earlier Me, Mr Hetul & Mr Murli Discussed on this issue. Actually Mr Hetul Booked a ticket for one passenger for 2005 & 2006 and he noticed the difference. He asked me and I asked the answer Mr Murli then we decided to mail the matter to IRCTC and we get the answer mail from irctc that this difference is due to the food cost served in trains. In night train you will get the dinner also and it costs higher.
I think now the whole picture is clear to every one.
further discussion welcome on the issue.
Regards :)

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Dec 30 2009 (12:19)
Kapadia    2837 blog posts
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May be the food / lunch / dinner could be the only reason.
But look at this anomaly :-
Surat – Bandra shatabdi spl 252 kms 6.00 d 9.40 a 3.40 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare Rs. 465/- (timing wise no lunch / dinner )
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– Surat shatabdi spl 252 kms 10.30 d 14.05 a 3.35 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare 465/- (assuming with Snacks & dinner)
Surat – Vasai Rd 215 kms shatabdi spl 15.00 d 18.00 a 3 hrs @ 73 kmph Fare 370/- (timing wise no lunch / dinner)
Vasai Rd – Surat 215 kms shatabdi spl 18.35 d 21.15 a 2.40 hrs @ 82 kmph Fare 370/- (assuming with snacks & dinner)
Borivali – Surat in Ahd shatabdi 6.59 d 9.40 a 2.41 min @ 87 kmph Rs. 405/- (only snacks - no lunch)
Surat-Borivali in Ahd Shatabdi 18.00 d 20.52 a 2.52 min @ 82/- kms Rs. 435/- (only dinner)
To and from timings are different, however fare remains same here for these trains.
The issue is not being made out but the facts are being blogged and debated. The fare set up information ought to be made at suitable places by the WR. Else, the people just wonder.

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Dec 30 2009 (12:40)
Jitesh Chhabra   4931 blog posts
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As per my analysis in Surat – Bandra shatabdi spl 252 kms 6.00 d 9.40 a 3.40 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare Rs. 465/- snacks will be served
in Bandra – Surat shatabdi spl 252 kms 10.30 d 14.05 a 3.35 hrs journey @ 71 kmph Fare 465/- snacks and lunch will be served
in Surat – Vasai Rd 215 kms shatabdi spl 15.00 d 18.00 a 3 hrs @ 73 kmph Fare 370/- (not sure but I think lunch will be served)
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Vasai Rd – Surat 215 kms shatabdi spl 18.35 d 21.15 a 2.40 hrs @ 82 kmph Fare 370/- snack and dinner will be served
in Borivali – Surat in Ahd shatabdi 6.59 d 9.40 a 2.41 min @ 87 kmph Rs. 405/- only snacks will be served
One more thing food cost is decided by IRCTC not Indian Railway. So what is the calculation behind it I dont know.
But I gave you the answer based on reply given by IRCTC that difference in fare is due to cost of food served in particular train.

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