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Blog Entry# 2166671
Posted: Feb 16 2017 (13:40)

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Feb 16 2017 (13:40)   12724/Telangana Express (PT) | SC/Secunderabad Junction (10 PFs)
Tapan Sharma^~
Tapan Sharma^~   1538 blog posts
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First Railfan Session of 2017!!! And Maiden Capture of 12724 AP SF and 22692 KA Rajdhani!!!
RF session with the argument
It was 7.20PM where I arrived from exam center in MMTS EMU to Secunderabad on PF10 where in first I thought that 22692 KA Rajdhani would depart and 12724 Time arrival for AP SF Express but till then even KA Rajdhani didn't arrive! Had a sigh of relief that trains are late cause I wanted to capture!! Had a parallel Entry with 12805 Janmabhoomi Intercity Express and within 5 min
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of it came 17213 Narsapur to Nagarsol Express time was 19.41! Still no sign of arrival of 22692/12724 it was 8PM where they announced 22692 will arrive on PF10 it arrived at 8.15 and should depart by 8.30 (as showed on LED) still there was no sign of 12724 no display no announcement.
But according to LIVE STATION and LKL of train 12724 has crossed CHZ at 7.45PM only
Within that 17221 Kakinada to Lokmanya Tilak Express arrived time was 8.20, meanwhile 22204 VSKP Duronto has departed PF 9 became empty expected 12724 AP to arrive but still no sign.
On PF 9 17024 Tungabhadra Intercity Express came and occupied
PF 1 VSKP GR departed at 8.30 Goutami came
PF 2 Kakinada to Lokmanya Tilak Express
PF 3 Cocanada AC,
PF 4 Solapur-FM Passenger
PF 5 Narsapur Nagarsol
PF 8 Janmabhoomi ICE
PF 9 Tungabhadra ICE
PF 10 Karnatka Rajdhani
6,7 were empty but EMU were arriving and departing,
It was 8.40 12758 Kaghaznagar Intercity Once Upon a Time Telangana Express Occupied 6PF immediately with 12720 Hyderabad to Ajmer SF PF 7 all PF's are full now
it was 8.45 22692 KA Rajdhani Had to depart leaving only PF10 empty
it was 8.45PM i also expected 77619 Secunderabad Medchal DEMU to arrive it didn't
and now i was sure that 10PF being empty 12724 AP will arrive there only, Meanwhile the two Elder persons approached me and asked
A,B: Are you waiting for AP express
Me: Yes
A,B: When will it come?
Me: Announcement is yet to be given
A,B: Liar this is not AP Express this is Telangana
Me: I said only the name changed nothing much
A,B: No no no this was AP SF now it's only Telangana Express
Me: I said it's a SF still
A,B: Beta tum chup raho you don't know it's changed, Halts increased it's a DLI Division train it's and Express not an SF
Me: Immediately i recollected Sandeep Vickey as we had talk last month about AP Express and we talk regularly and I said Not even in this Millennium this is a SF and SC Div only
A,B: Arey beta why are you arguing i said na i travel and my family too what i said is correct only
Me: I moved away from the place
It was 9PM still no sign of display and announcement but still LKL was CHZ at 19.45
then at 9.10 I saw beam of light at entrance of PF 10 it was 12724 AP SF Approached with honking and UR coaches were Jam-packed! still there was no announcement at 9.20 It departed and then the announcement came as 12724 is ready to leave from PF10!
Pic 1 Station Board
Pic 2,3 Loco Link for 12437 AP Rajdhani you can also see board written for Rajdhani Stop
Pic 4,5,6,8 Loco Link of 22692 Karnataka Rajdhani
Pic 7 EOG TB
Pic 9,10 Approaching of 12724 AP SF
Pic 11 TB
Pic 12 Rake no 3 it-seems
Firstly When the train crossed CHZ 7.45 where was it till 9PM? was it detained on sidelines? because when it had to arrive at 8.22PM it didn't but other trains arrived in meanwhile. No sign of announcement until the train arrived and was about to depart! PF couldn't be the issue there was free PF's before and I was waiting for the train! 12KMs CHZ to SC takes 20min approx it took 1H25M to cover!
90% of paxs got down and seats seemed new but coaches were littered.
I actually thought if rake 3rd is here 1st,2nd&4th would be in travel but Sai Ram sir said the 4th rake is not utilized!! how are they able to manage with 3rakes only?

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Feb 16 2017 (15:09)
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sairam2493~   4279 blog posts
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Regarding, "how are they able to manage with 3rakes only?", you can make it out by taking particular time of a day into consideration(if they are on schedule).
6 A.M:
Rake 1: Ready to depart from HYB as 12723
Rake 2: Somewhere near MTJ, going towards NDLS as 12723
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3: Somewhere in ET-NGP stretch as 12724(departed a day before from NDLS)
12 P.M:
Rake 1: Somewhere near BPQ as 12723
Rake 2: Undergoing SM at NDLS
Rake 3: Somewhere near CD as 12724
6 P.M:
Rake 1: Somewhere in NGP-ET section as 12723
Rake 2: Departed from NDLS as 12724 @5:25
Rake 3: Somewhere in KZJ-SC stretch as 12724
12 A.M:
Rake 1: Somewhere in BPL-JHS stretch as 12723
Rake 2: Somewhere near JHS as 12724
Rake 3: Undergoing PM at HYB
TAT for PM: 10hr 50 min
TAT for SM: 8hr 20 min
What I said yesterday was, the TAT for Telangana at both HYB and NDLS is less compared to other southern trains(given below) and any significant delay(which is common during fog season) of any rake means there are higher chances of getting rescheduled.
TAT for Dakshin(4 rakes):
PM: 17hr 30 min
SM: 18hr 55 min
TAT for TN(4 rakes):
PM: 14hr 50 min
SM: 15hr 25 min
TAT for GT(4 rakes):
PM: 12hr 55 min
SM: 10hr 40 min

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Feb 16 2017 (17:28)
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12723_AP_12724^~   20577 blog posts
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Unhappy for its own zone doing such things to the legend ... This train can be speeded up and some stops can be removed ... i gave suggestions to SCR, CR, NR for removal of stoppages thru pg portal and thru tweets ... and i got replies like suggestion is notified to concerned official and other replies like modification of stoppages are decided by RB and HQ..
They aren't understanding the scenario.. many politicians are responsible for this .. This train was once a copy of SC NZM Durunto ... It use to finish the journey in less than 24 hours ...
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ruined the train ... Now it is running 3 hours and more slower than Inaugural timetable ...
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Feb 16 2017 (18:40)
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deepak.yerr~   6044 blog posts
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All poluplar trains like TN AP Coromondal Geetanjali introduced in 1970's used to complete journey in what the present Rajdhani/Duronto category trains are taking now.
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Feb 16 2017 (19:55)
Tapan Sharma^~   1538 blog posts
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Ohh
SC has time and space to give PF allotments to trains which have LC,LR 20+min halts and let Express train to enter but unable to allocate a PF to SF train with only 5 - 10 min halt!!!
Not only that IDLE trains stand on PF for hours Yesterday JB ICE was from 19.30-20.30 and Tungabhadra express from 20.45- till etc (i was till 9.30 in station) so same scenario is for other trains in Peaks
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doesn't even have that much of traffic at 19.35 probably only of EMU's right one or two weekly trains
and they say Saturated so sad!
Don't you think there's something wrong? Either Controllers might have Forgotten this train!!
Regarding NTES ya that's right!!

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Feb 16 2017 (20:04)
TheLoneWanderer
TheLoneWanderer   8059 blog posts
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not entirely the fault of controllers....
its the station controllers who has to allow the trains onto PF by allotting them ...
HYB do have pf crunch even thought it doesn't have trains to arrive/depart at that time..reason being most of the times, HYB bound terminating trains are being parked on PF for longer than expected times...
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time..unless Charminar crossed HS Junction, AP wont get signal to proceed towards HYB..this case is when AP is RT and Charminar is RT
if AP gets delayed and if any trains that arrives HYB ahead of AP which bloks the PF without being parked/moved to pitlines in stipulated times, it takes toll and further delays AP arrival...partly due to laziness of SC/HYB staff to park rakes in a time bound manner and sometimes to give a particular platform for a particular train...
for any trains entering SC, this is the case that happens after MLY ...generally there wont be any udpates in NTES and even if they do, they will be far from the reality just to maintain the punctuality as per records
HYB is not saturated in terms of trains but yes when it comes to allotting Platforms and constrains at HS junction for HYB in and out bound trains ..the situation looks like HYB station is full busy ...

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