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Tamil Nadu Express - தங்களை அன்புடன் வரவேற்கிறது - Swaroop Kutti

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Blog Entry# 4987589
Posted: Jun 16 2021 (23:44)

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Last Response: Feb 21 2023 (10:54)
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Jun 16 2021 (23:44)   12601/MGR Chennai Central - Mangaluru Central Mail (PT)
Vinay Kumar
Vinay Kumar   23030 blog posts
Entry# 4987589            Tags   Past Edits
May 12 1862. Inaugural run. How? Till 30th June 1862 Madras Railway was 312 Miles, 90 Miles short of MAS-Beypore & 238 Miles shy of MAQ (Finished in 1907)!!
I hope its not a presumption and there must be some train's TT as back up which you link as progression of 46 long years gap of non existence of Through Train/Coach & Rail Network!! click here Tells in 1888 at 18:00 some train DEP MAS which was forerunner to 1 MAS-MAQ Mail!!
I show you non existence of Mail or Interclass Fare in
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Madras Railway when almost every Network had it in 1884!!
If its a presumption then Punjab/Calcutta/Nagpur Mail must start in 1858 as TT exist with Ordinary train ply till Vasind!! Either correct me or Timeline!!

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Jul 02 2021 (20:13)
Vinay Kumar   23030 blog posts
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Portion in Attachment:
1. Sep 16 1865: Govn has declined to send mail from Beypore & Bombay until Railway is complete!! Paninsular & Oriental Company oppose creation of good port at Beypore!!
2. 1880-81: Canceled PDU-Beypore Mail was the only Second Passenger service in this section which is left with just one Ordinary!!
3. 1871: 11 Train exist (3 Night MAS-CBE/RC/SBC). All other run
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on short and long portion of line (complete Section running train defined for Great Southern Indian Railway). That means MAS-Beypore was MAS-CBE & CBE-Beypore (which later serve as PDU-Beypore & got canceled to be revived again past CLT Line sanction)
Its no doubt that 12 Malabar isnt dated in 1862 (& 12 Malabar Exp was never MAQ Mail)!!

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Jul 03 2021 (15:48)
Vinay Kumar   23030 blog posts
Re# 4987589-15               Past Edits
Pic 3: Bypore Mail: 1863-64 Through as GDs, Sep 1865 No Mail Allowance from Bombay/Beypore till Line completes, 1867-68-69 Ord/Mail (2 trains to Beypore) , 1870 MAS/SBC/RC-CBE Night + PDJ-Beypore Morning Mail, Jan 1880 PDJ-Byepore Mail Discontinued (MAS Through Coach demolished), 1880-81 PDJ-Beypore Ord demolished (PDJ-Beypore left with no Train)
Pic 1: 1875-76: No through Mail to Beypore, Pic 2: 1889: Through Mail to Calicut, click here 5 March 1888: MAS-CLT Connected with Ferry near CLT, 1890 Through Connection to CLT (Through Mail started at 18:00 ex MAS, Become Malabar Exp with SRR-ERS Link for MAS & MAQ)
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July 1940: Cochin-SRR BG, Malabar Exp diverted to Cochin, Malabar Exp MAS-CBE Slot taken by MAS-Cochin Exp (Extension of MAS-CBE Island Express), Mangalore Express (New Train) started in MAS-MAQ which become 1 MAQ Mail!!

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Jul 03 2021 (15:53)
Vinay Kumar   23030 blog posts
Re# 4987589-16              
Basis /blog/post/4987589 & /blog/post/4987589 i don't have any doubt about timeline of MAS-CBE Nilgiri, Malabar Exp, MAQ Mail & MAS-Cochin Exp (along with Island Exp)!!
This is enough evidence to correct inaugural date which will be done if no counter evidence are reproduced!!
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Jul 25 2021 (00:50)
Vinay Kumar   23030 blog posts
Re# 4987589-17               Past Edits
There always been speculation of Beypore Mail as "through" since inception which isn't true as per attachment dated Mar 29 1862 (for 11 May), which says:
1. 1,2,3 GD Class Train from SA to Beypore - SA 6:15, Beypore 17:30/6:30, SA 17:45
2. CBE-Beypore (till SA-Beypore line is pending. CBE 11:45, Beypore 17:30/6:30, CBE 12:20
Pic 2&3: Between Feb-Aug 1864 MAS-Beypore is still SA-Beypore
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Ord, 1&2 Class attach at SA while MAS-SA is Goods!! Its slowed down to reach Beypore at 19:00 instead of 17:30 (SA ARR 18:40 instead of 17:45)
SBC inception in 1864 marked foray of: Nilgiri, Island, SBC Mail, MAS-Beypore Mail as Ord Service branched out of SA-Beypore Ord (which still exist as 3rd Class was attached in SA-Beypore Pic 4)!!
PS: Postal Letters of 1863 & Jan 1863 Experiment for P&O (Calcutta-Madras-Beypore-Bombay) already reinforced no through existence for Beypore-Mas (although SA-Beypore undoubtedly was forerunner of lot many Mails but its through CBE-MAS run will be the inaugural date as MAS-Beypore Line was through since 1862 owned by MR)!!
Pic 1: Forerunner of PTJ-Beypore/MAQ Mail as CBE-PGT Ord: 1&2 GD Class: CBE 7:00, PGT 8:40/15:15, CBE 17:00

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Feb 21 2023 (10:54)
mshaheertk   42 blog posts
Re# 4987589-18              
What happens to both the trains going to beypore after 1868. I am confused. In 1868 we have one direct train from Madras to beypore and 2nd one is connection train from Madras to Coimbatore and from next morning departure from Coimbatore to beypore. Actually what happens to this trains untill cancelled it in early 1880s. Does Madras( 5 pm departure) -beypore direct train convert into 2 trains Madras -CBE and CBE BEYPORE in between 1869 to 1880???? I am confused
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