What is the class upgradation scheme? How are passengers upgraded to higher classes? Do I have to do anything? Is it applicable only for W/L tickets, or for all? 37 Answers What is the class upgradation scheme? How are passengers upgraded to higher classes? Do I have to do anything? Is it applicable only for W/L tickets, or for all?
GUYS all our queries are solved....just check the attachment...
Auto Upgradation
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Scheme:
1. Is exercised for those passengers only who have opted for upgradation while booking (complaints are there that it was done without exercising (226509) but it sure that the System had already fed into information of this option having been opted for) .
2. Is... more... applicable to all the issuing gateways - Counter, E or I.
3. Is applicable to all the status whether CNF, RAC or W/Listed before chart preparation (or at the time of issuance of original booking) and whether Tatkal or General.
4. A complete PNR is upgraded and not less than all passengers out of a PNR.
5. Next higher class is only to which GENERALLY upgraded (exceptions are there which have previosuly been reported at our site where next to next higher class was allotted). One can refer to the upgradation list of Yesvantpur-Howrah Duronto Express/12246 of 25.08.2011 where 41 passengers are upgraded. At Sr. No. 11, one can find that a passenger of 3AC has been upgraded to 1A (Blog Entry No. 226690).
6. Is automated on random logic & hence no preference can be set (earlier booked, Tatkal booked, initially confirmed or so).
7. There is no compulsion that Upgradation will be applied by IR for any train irrespective of some berths being carried vacant in a class.
8. There is no charge for Auto-upgradation and the passengers enjoy the upper class journey just free of cost though in upper class, there may be an additional costing in addition to empty haulage like bed rolls (when upgraded from SL to 3AC or so) and Pantry costing (like 2AC to 1AC in Rajdhani / Duronto or ACCH to ExCH in Shatabdi trains.
Precautions:
1. Sr.Citizens, Ladies who are prefering Lower Berths and are expecting (or know) that they are likely to get LBs, should not allow upgradation if they need LBs only.
2. Sleeper class passengers who do no like Air Conditioning, should not allow upgradation.
3. Beware that good allocation in the original class may become bad in the higher class (a reverse is also possible).
Fact sheet:
Attached is the upgraded Passenger List for 12956 (Jaipur – Mumbai Central via Sawaimadhopur – Ratlam – Vadodara) of 24.08.2011 which copy pasted for summary viewing and screen Shots pasted for original effect.
1. Upgradaing is only one class upward (though sometime back we had received notice from some members that it had been beyond one class up also).
2. Sr. no. 1, 8 etc. were waitlisted but have got upgraded.
3. Sr. no. 13, 15 etc. were under RAC but have got upgraded.
4. Sr. Nos. 2 to 5 were enjoying a good allotment of original berths (B-4> 17, 18, 19 & 20; 3rd cubical LB, MB, UB and LB) but on upgrading they have been bifurcated to A-1> 41, 42, 43 & 44; SL, SU, next cubical UB, opposite LB).
5. Sr. Nos. 25-26 and 37-38 had all Lower berths inside same cubicals (S-2> 1 & 4 and S-9>65 & 68 respectively) which seems to be for Sr. Citizens or Ladies (Just prsuming, pls.) but have been thrown away at SL and SU berths (B-5> 47 & 48 and B-5> 15 & 16 respectively; one side lower and one side upper each).
6. Sr. Nos. 45 & 46 have badly been treated. Enjoying berths 1 & 4 (both lower, same and first cubical) in S-8 are picked up and dropped off at both the upper berthe (19 & 22) in coach B-3.
Q. What is the up gradation scheme? What are its salient features?
Ans. With a view to optimize the utilization of available accommodation in train, a scheme to upgrade full fare paying passengers to the next higher class against the available vacant accommodation has been introduced in all Mail/Express trains having sleeping accommodation w.e.f. 24-02-2006. The salient features of the scheme are given below:-
The scheme is applicable to only full fare paying passengers, free of charge.
It... more... is applicable only in those trains having sleeping accommodation,
The passengers for up gradation will be selected on random basis by the System at the time of preparation of reservation charts,
Up gradation of passengers will be done as under:-
Sleeper to 3 AC or First Class
3 AC to 2 AC
2 AC to 1 AC
Up gradation will not be done for block booking transactions,
If there is no waiting list, no up gradation will take place,
If a passenger, who has been upgraded, cancels his ticket, cancellation charges of the original class only will be payable.
No.. in case 3A is full and 2A has vacancy. 3A passenger will be upgraded to 2A and Sl will be upgraded to 3A.
अगर स्लीपर क्लास खाली रह जाता है तो आपकी सीट का कोई अपग्रेडेशन नहीं होगा. क्योंकि अपग्रेड उसी अवस्था में होता है जब निचले क्लास में प्रतीक्षा सूची हो और उपरी क्लास खाली हो इसलिए आपकी टिकट का अपग्रेड होना संभव नहीं लगता क्योंकि इस गाडी में शायद ही पूरी सीटें भर पाती हैं.
what is the auto upgradation????? is there any extra charge for that??????
Auto upgradation scheme is applicable only to passengers having booked tickets on full fare.
Concession ticket/free pass holders including senior citizens traveling on concession will not be upgraded.
Up gradation will not be done for block booking transactions.
Up gradation will be automatically done by PRS at the time of charting.
The... more... Train Conductors/Ticket Examiners will have no authority to upgrade any passenger under this scheme on the train.
However, the present system of upgradation on collection of full fare difference by booking, reservation or checking staff will continue as usual.
If a passenger, who has been upgraded, cancels his ticket, cancellation charges of the original class only will be payable.
Up gradation of passengers will be done in one class above only e.g. from sleeper to 3AC/FC, 3AC to 2AC and 2AC to 1AC.
Only waitlisted passengers will be provided confirmed seats.
The remaining vacant berths will be transferred for booking on the current counters as per the existing practice.
Thus, if there is no waiting list on a train, no upgradation will take place.
The berths of confirmed passengers, who have been upgraded to the higher class, will be allotted to the RAC/WL passengers of that class.
If there are still some berths vacant, the vacant berths will be allotted to confirmed passengers of the next lower class.
All passengers in one PNR (maximum 6) will be upgraded together or none of them will be upgraded in case of non-availability of enough berths for upgradation. Passengers will be upgraded without asking for their choice e.g. SL to AC/FC coach, cabin berth to side berth, lower berth to upper berth, cabin level compact accommodation to coach level compact accommodation.
However, if any passenger exercises NO option for upgradation in the requisition form at the time of booking, his/her PNR will not be considered by PRS for upgradation.
Party consisting of both full fare paying and confessional passengers will be not upgraded, to avoid splitting.
Original PNR of upgraded passengers will remain unchanged and all information from PRS, IVRS etc., will be provided when enquiry is made with the original PNR. Since there will be changes in the coach number and berth numbers of passengers, who had earlier been allotted confirmed seats, if they are upgraded, passengers will need to get into the habit of checking their final coach numbers and berth numbers before occupying the berths.
The chart of the original class of passengers will have indication at the bottom of the chart giving original berth numbers, which have been upgraded.
The final charts of the upgraded class will include the names of upgraded passengers against their allotted upgraded coach and berth number and will have an indication denoting their upgraded status.
There will also be a separate sheet on the lines of the waiting list chart giving old status and new status for upgraded passengers.
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-0
yes upgradation is free of charge. U dont have to pay extra for that.
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-0
It is applicabe for all confirmed tickets. If your Ticket is in WL but confirmed at the time of charting, u r also eligible for upgradation. Please note that, there needs to be vacancy in the higher class
It is randomly decided by the system.
U may be upgarded upto two classes in a train.
I... more... believe, it is random. No logic for Upgradation.
Even if there is a logic, it wont be available to general public. In that case, if we were to know the logic, we would go for that method. It is beeter to be surprised with Upgradation.
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-0
Upgradation is done when all passengers aren't being able to be accommodated in the train. It is free of cost. Upgradation is done upto two higher classes in the train (E.g. if the train doesn't have 3A, then SL passenger may be upgraded to 2A and even 1A) It is done at the time of charting. All passengers in a ticket are considered for upgradation together. CNF/RAC/WL passengers (all of them) are eligible for it, though some claim that WL passengers have got higher priority for Upgradation.
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-0
Earlier, it was like, if vacancy exists in SL as well as 3AC., , then upgradation was not done from SL - 3AC.
SL had to be in waiting for upgradations to take place(Vacancy in 3AC exists).
I guess, now the scenario is like, even if seats are available in SL and 3AC, passengers are upgraded from SL - 3AC.
@Srinivas G Phani*: Re# 141869-3
Upgradation is done when all passengers aren't being able to be accommodated in the train OR is it that when berths are free in higher classes it is done ?
I think it is the later.
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If... more... there are berths free in higher classes, people are upgraded. And technically upgradation can happen from any class to any class.
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-0
cheme Launched on 26 Jan' 2006
SCHEME TO UPGRADE FULL FARE PAYING WAITLISTED PASSENGERS TO
NEXT HIGHER CLASS TO COVER INITIALLY TWO PAIRS OF TRAINS ON EXPERIMENTAL BASIS... more...
COMES INTO EFFECT FROM JANUARY 26, 2006
In a major move that is expected not only to benefit waitlisted passengers but also benefit the railways in terms of filling up vacant accommodation in various trains, the railways have introduced a scheme, on an experimental basis, to upgrade full fare paying waiting list passengers to the next higher class against the available vacant accommodation, with effect from 26th January 2006. Initially, the scheme will be implemented only on two pairs of trains viz. 2951/2952 Mumbai Central-New Delhi Rajdhani Express and 2953/2954 Mumbai Central-Hazrat Nizamuddin August Kranti Express. The important features of the scheme are: The scheme will initially be applicable on a few selected trains with reserved sleeping accommodation as a pilot project. It will not be offered in trains with only sitting accommodation e.g. 2S, CC and EC classes. The scheme is applicable only to passengers having booked tickets on full fare.Concession ticket/free pass holders including senior citizens traveling on concession will not be upgraded. Up gradation will not be done for block booking transactions. Up gradation will be automatically done by PRS at the time of charting. The Train Conductors/Ticket Examiners will have no authority to upgrade any passenger under this scheme on the train. However, the present system of upgradation on collection of full fare difference by booking, reservation or checking staff will continue as usual. If a passenger, who has been upgraded, cancels his ticket, cancellation charges of the original class only will be payable. Up gradation of passengers will be done in one class above only e.g. from sleeper to 3AC/FC, 3AC to 2AC and 2AC to 1AC. Only waitlisted passengers will be provided confirmed seats. The remaining vacant berths will be transferred for booking on the current counters as per the existing practice. Thus, if there is no waiting list on a train, no upgradation will take place. The berths of confirmed passengers, who have been upgraded to the higher class, will be allotted to the RAC/WL passengers of that class. If there are still some berths vacant, the vacant berths will be allotted to confirmed passengers of the next lower class. All passengers in one PNR (maximum 6) will be upgraded together or none of them will be upgraded in case of non-availability of enough berths for upgradation. Passengers will be upgraded without asking for their choice e.g. SL to AC/FC coach, cabin berth to side berth, lower berth to upper berth, cabin level compact accommodation to coach level compact accommodation. However, if any passenger exercises NO option for upgradation in the requisition form at the time of booking, his/her PNR will not be considered by PRS for upgradation. Party consisting of both full fare paying and confessional passengers will be not upgraded, to avoid splitting. Original PNR of upgraded passengers will remain unchanged and all information from PRS, IVRS etc., will be provided when enquiry is made with the original PNR. Since there will be changes in the coach number and berth numbers of passengers, who had earlier been allotted confirmed seats, if they are upgraded, passengers will need to get into the habit of checking their final coach numbers and berth numbers before occupying the berths. The chart of the original class of passengers will have indication at the bottom of the chart giving original berth numbers, which have been upgraded. The final charts of the upgraded class will include the names of upgraded passengers against their allotted upgraded coach and berth number and will have an indication denoting their upgraded status. There will also be a separate sheet on the lines of the waiting list chart giving old status and new status for upgraded passengers.
@Abhishek Chanda*: Re# 141869-2
To add, upgradation is done if there is vacancy in higher class and WL in same or lower class.
@Harshal*: Re# 141869-6
Thanks Sir, My tkt status for this train is CNF now. Class 2-A/c DOJ 20.04.2011. But When I booked the tkt it was W/L 3. I normaly book my tkt thro' NET & will enable the option upgradation during booking.
IN case if my tkt is upgraded it will b 1st A/c. By upgrading a passeger to a higher class, don't u think that it is a loss for railways. Suppose I book a tkt in sleeper class in this train which... more... is Rs.193.00 incl. all charges, at the time of charting, incase I'm upgraded to 2nd A/c, the cost is Rs.650.00 Plus which is a loss for railway for about RS.400.00
What is the point in upgrading a passenger ?
Rgds
Kamesh K
SBC
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-8
Passengers are upgraded to next upper class only. In very rare cases it is seen that it is upgraded to next 2 upper classes. Regarding the loss, instead of running the train with empty upper class berth, IR gives upgradation free so that they can pull in 2 waitlisted tkt holders on to an RAC seat for they get the fare twice. So they are not at full loss.
@Harshal*: Re# 141869-9
Passengers can be upgraded upto two classes. It is mentioned in SZTT.
@Harshal*: Re# 141869-9
Thanks Mr. Harshal. Some time I have seen, in A/c classes some seats / berths goes vaccant. I have done it once I myself upgraded to 3rd A/c from Sleeper in Kaveri express sometime bak. I just chkd the chart, it showed about 6 to 7 vaccant berths. I just enquired the TTE of A/c coach, he said come in. I Informed my coach TTE that I'm upgrading to 3rd A/c. He immediatley noted in his chart & I boarded A/c coach and occupaid a vaccant upper Berth. I just paid the difference in fare, for which he issued a slip. I happly slept til the... more... train reached KJM
Rgds
Kamesh K
SBC
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-14
Ideally you should be upgraded at free of cost.
Why did you pay the difference in fare?
When we put a reques to upgrade, do we have pay the fare/
Also,... more... how come there are vacant berths in AC, I mean did none of the passengers tick the box TO BE UPGRADED?
@Pradyu VSKP: Re# 141869-17
As I upgraded on my own, I have to pay the difference in fare. Some times I have seen even in A/c chair car some seats go vaccant (this is apart from passengers not turning up or cancellation after preparation of chart).
Whenever I travel in SL 1st thing I chk any berth is avbl on A/c . If avbl, I upgrad myself.
As... more... per bloggers, upgradation is done randomly by the system.
Thanks + Rgds
Kamesh K
SBC
@Kamesh Krishnamoorthy: Re# 141869-18
If you are asking how berths remain vacant if auto-upgradation is done by system, the answer is not all trains have auto-upgrade in place. There are trains where auto-upgrades are not being done.
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I am not 100% sure... would want others to comment.
@Biplab Nayak*: Re# 141869-19
Once i have got upgraded in TVC rajdhani express. And once i have seen 2 berths avauilable at the time of charting in recent Netravati express where SL was having WL. Auto Upgradation wasnt done on that
@Biplab Nayak*: Re# 141869-19
Rite Mr. Nayak. But sometimes some berths goes vaccant in higher classes, not on all occasions, during lean period. Like for example during Winter there may not heavy rush in A/c coach
Rgds
Kamesh K
SBC
@Biplab Nayak*: Re# 141869-5
No sir, I don't think it is the latter case, it is the former. If railways follows the latter case, it is a loss for it but if it is the former case, then it is a profit.
@Srinivas G Phani*: Re# 141869-22
Actually we need to talk to someone working in IR reservations to get confirm answer. Why I said it is done even when there is no WL in lower class is, I have noticed trains where berths are free in all classes including SL and upgrades are done. I will try to put some data together this weekend if the train has berths avbl.
@Abhishek Chanda*: Re# 141869-2
if there is no vacancy in higher class then?
will w/L passenger confirmed?
@shahkalam: Re# 141869-24
They may confirm only if somebody cancels it.
@shahkalam: Re# 141869-24
I have Heard that Upgradation is Done in only Few Trains...
Is it By any Chance True...???
@Harshal*: Re# 141869-25
and suppose no one cancel the ticket then?
Computer picks any PNR randomly which meets the conditions. Suppose there is only one vacant berth in 3AC and WL in Sleeper, then one SL class passenger will be upgraded. Now system will check for only those PNRs which have opted for upgradation and have only a single passenger. If a PNR has 2 passengers, either both are upgraded or none. One passenger cannot be upgraded while the other passenger remains in same class.
Thanks for the info bro....by the way, the big relief for me being upgraded was, I didn't have to face the "eunuchs problem", if in SL, this is a very irritating thing for everyone.......anyways it was nice......thx again.....
upgradation is done automatically.
while booking the ticket dont forget to select the auto up gradation option
this is the only and normal procedure for upgrading any ticket.
If seats are available during journey in an upper class u can request the TTE to upgrade your ticket for which u have to pay the fare difference
Correct
for free ungradation we have to click on the option while booking
for paid upgradation we have to click on our pocket while traveling
both subject to availability
Hemant,
Why you are in so hurry to answer. The user has asked the question what is the normal procedure for upgrading my ticket and you have given ugradation is done automatically. (which is for Auto upgrade and also if user choose this option, that also randomly and not every one) . The question it self is not correct he should have clearly mention upgrading class and not ticket and also he must have given the detail like on board or before on board. I have seen that you are always in hurry and like running a race to answer first. Please avoid this habit before you go through the question and answer. this is the third mistake i have found... more... today. I have seen your post and seem to be a person in hurry. This is not a abuse to you. If you are admin or any admin want to delete this post they can do. But I am writing this only for good of this blog and for blogger as this blogs comes in Google search and some one should not get the wrong information. In short i can say telling no information is far better then giving wrong information. I hope you will understand atleast from now onwards
सर मुफ्त UPGRADATION हेतु आप फॉर्म भरते समय इसके कालम पर क्लीक कर दे (चाहे ई टिकिट हो या सरकारी आरक्षण केंद्र का हो ) - तब चार्ट बनते वक्त आप खुश किस्मत होगे आपका AUतो UPGRADATION के तहत अपर क्लास में हो गया हो ----- इसके अलावा यदि आपके पास लोवर क्लास का टिकिट हो और आप ट्रेन में टीटी से अनुरोध करे और उपलब्धता हो TO वो आपको अंतर KA किराया लेकर देगे अपर क्लास की बर्थ /सिट --- |
