हमसे सीखे कोई जीने का सलीका। सफर कैसा भी हो, मौज़ उडाये जाते हैं।। - Amir

regarding 11451/11452 if this train runs via Bhopal, Vidisha and Bina then this train will be the super hit and then there will be super demand of this train hence there is no direct train from Vidisha to Indore after Malwa then this train will become superhit. bcoz of the other route this train is not getting so much demand that is why this is a another white elephant of IR.

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sir but this is also season time for this trains. once if you get opportunity then travel in 12198 from bina to bhopal. It will be difficult for you to get seat in that to sit.

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am agree with u manit bhai route can changed .

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there is need of chair car in 22161. and u can find that at the time of charting it almost got full.

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