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12311/Netaji Express
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1861: Evening Mail, 1867: 1 Chord Mail, 1870: Fast Mail No 9. 1867 run was via ASN-PNBE not Gaya (Its Chord not Grand Chord)!!Earlier Class use to be highlighted: 1 & 2 Mail, 1 & 2 Interclass. 1 & 2 Mail. There was no space left to show Mail if Inter was mentioned. It was 1&2 Interclass in between HWH-BWN-ASN. Thats why i mentioned to check train's schedule in ALD-DLI where its 1,2,3 Mail as Inter use to run in between HWH-BWN/RNG!!Its never tough to check which was Kalka Mail basis its HWH evening Dep!! Books are of 35 MB size...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861: Evening Mail, 1867: 1 Chord Mail, 1870: Fast Mail No 9. 1867 run was via ASN-PNBE not Gaya (Its Chord not Grand Chord)!!Earlier Class use to be highlighted: 1 & 2 Mail, 1 & 2 Interclass. 1 & 2 Mail. There was no space left to show Mail if Inter was mentioned. It was 1&2 Interclass in between HWH-BWN-ASN. Thats why i mentioned to check train's schedule in ALD-DLI where its 1,2,3 Mail as Inter use to run in between HWH-BWN/RNG!!Its never tough to check which was Kalka Mail basis its HWH evening Dep!! Books are of 35 MB size...
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12311/Netaji Express
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1861: Evening Mail, 1867: 1 Chord Mail, 1870: Fast Mail No 9. 1867 run was via ASN-PNBE not Gaya (Its Chord not Grand Chord)!!Earlier Class use to be highlighted: 1 & 2 Mail, 1 & 2 Interclass. 1 & 2 Mail. There was no space left to show Mail if Inter was mentioned. It was 1&2 Interclass in between HWH-BWN-ASN. Thats why i mentioned to check train's schedule in ALD-DLI where its 1,2,3 Mail as Inter use to run in between HWH-BWN/RNG!!Its never tough to check which was Kalka Mail basis its HWH evening Dep!! Books are of 35 MB size...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1864: ALD Jamuna Bridge wasnt commissioned. Kalka Mail till BSB while Upper India Exp (probably) got Coach Ferried at ALD (in between Jumna Station & ALD).Seems Kalka Mail was never ferried and did Maiden "through" run to DLI past Jamna Bridge completion ex ALD/DLI!! Till then travelers enjoyed Mail service till BSB!! Kindly check how ALD-DLI run is marked as Mail coz no Inter-class past BWN (1,2,3,Inter,Mail) and class which exist past BWN for both train to BSB/DLI was 1,2,3,Mail!!
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1864: ALD Jamuna Bridge wasnt commissioned. Kalka Mail till BSB while Upper India Exp (probably) got Coach Ferried at ALD (in between Jumna Station & ALD).Seems Kalka Mail was never ferried and did Maiden "through" run to DLI past Jamna Bridge completion ex ALD/DLI!! Till then travelers enjoyed Mail service till BSB!! Kindly check how ALD-DLI run is marked as Mail coz no Inter-class past BWN (1,2,3,Inter,Mail) and class which exist past BWN for both train to BSB/DLI was 1,2,3,Mail!!
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1864: ALD Jamuna Bridge wasnt commissioned. Kalka Mail till BSB while Upper India Exp (probably) got Coach Ferried at ALD (in between Jumna Station & ALD).Seems Kalka Mail was never ferried and did Maiden "through" run to DLI past Jamna Bridge completion ex ALD/DLI!! Till then travelers enjoyed Mail service till BSB!! Kindly check how ALD-DLI run is marked as Mail coz no Inter-class past BWN (1,2,3,Inter,Mail) and class which exist past BWN for both train to BSB/DLI was 1,2,3,Mail!!
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12311/Netaji Express
Kindly update Inaugural Run for Kalka Mail since 1856:1856: GD with First Class Coach DEP HWH 8:30 PM (1856 TT: Pic 1 click here & 2 click here1860: 1&2 Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM. (Pic 3) GD was replaced by Mail.1861: Night Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM (Pic 4) ...Needless to say this was Kalka Mail & the oldest running Train!!
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Kindly update Inaugural Run for Kalka Mail since 1856:1856: GD with First Class Coach DEP HWH 8:30 PM (1856 TT: Pic 1 click here & 2 click here1860: 1&2 Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM. (Pic 3) GD was replaced by Mail.1861: Night Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM (Pic 4) ...Needless to say this was Kalka Mail & the oldest running Train!!
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Kindly update Inaugural Run for Kalka Mail since 1856:1856: GD with First Class Coach DEP HWH 8:30 PM (1856 TT: Pic 1 click here & 2 click here1860: 1&2 Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM. (Pic 3) GD was replaced by Mail.1861: Night Mail Dep HWH at 8:45 PM (Pic 4) ...Needless to say this was Kalka Mail & the oldest running Train!!
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
Pic 1: 1855-56 GD: HWH Dep 20.30 (1,2,3 Ordinary HWH Dep 9:00/17:30) Pic 2: 1861 1&2 Mail HWH Dep 20:45 (1,2,3 Ordinary HWH Dep 9:00/17:20 still Exist)Pic 3: 1867 1 Chord Mail HWH Dep 20:57 Clearly GD acted as predecessor to 1&2 Mail (1861) & 1 Chord Mail (1867). Mail dont have 3rd Class those days (MAS-Beypore run with 3rd Class in SA-Beypore in 1868). 19:15 MAS Dep of CBE GD (1868) sync to 20:00 Dep of 10 MAS-MTP Mail & was predecessor to 10 Mail/Blue Mountain/Nilgiri. MAS-Beypore 17:00 DEP got no Link to MAS-MAQ Mail which was a Slip to...
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12311/Netaji Express
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Pic 1: 1855-56 GD: HWH Dep 20.30 (1,2,3 Ordinary HWH Dep 9:00/17:30) Pic 2: 1861 1&2 Mail HWH Dep 20:45 (1,2,3 Ordinary HWH Dep 9:00/17:20 still Exist)Pic 3: 1867 1 Chord Mail HWH Dep 20:57 Clearly GD acted as predecessor to 1&2 Mail (1861) & 1 Chord Mail (1867). Mail dont have 3rd Class those days (MAS-Beypore run with 3rd Class in SA-Beypore in 1868). 19:15 MAS Dep of CBE GD (1868) sync to 20:00 Dep of 10 MAS-MTP Mail & was predecessor to 10 Mail/Blue Mountain/Nilgiri. MAS-Beypore 17:00 DEP got no Link to MAS-MAQ Mail which was a Slip to...
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12311/Netaji Express
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*Point 10: Postal Department want Mail Night Train at 20 Miles/Hour may cover MAS-Beypore in 20:30 Hrs against 43 Hrs as of now. As matter now Stands, Mail Post sent Pothanoor from Madras at Morning, Mail Post detain Pothanoor at Night, reaches Beypore following day at 12:40 PM. Train run at 20 Miles/Hour but Mail Post run at 9.5 Miles/Hour.-Outcome: MAS-TPT, TPT-PTJ, PTJ-Beypore. Mail Post/Bag shift in 3 different Ordinary train to reach Beypore in 1865!!*Point 11: Railway will run Night Mail Trains, if are sufficiently paid, but expense would be far greater than i am at present prepared to...
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12311/Netaji Express
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No MAS-Beypore but MAS-VLR, MAS-TPT, MAS-CBE trains till Dec 1864 as good as 1865, as per Point 6 of your post!!1. MAS-VLR Ord: 3rd to Dep & 1st to enter Madras carries no Mail Post (TT: 1861/1868 & Dec 1864 Post)2. MAS-TPT: 1st to Dep & 2nd to enter MAS Branch out at AJJ to Kadapa & Tripatore. Links past TPT: Beypore-Cannanore, SRR-TVC, Pothanoor-Nilgiri (1881 TPT Dep: 5:43, 6 AM (as in letter dated Dec 1864)3. MAS-CBE: 2nd to Dep & 3rd to enter MAS. Links all Stations till TPT & AJJ for SBC/Bellary/Bombay (Dec 1864 Post)1868. MAS-CBE was still 2nd...
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No MAS-Beypore but MAS-VLR, MAS-TPT, MAS-CBE trains till Dec 1864 as good as 1865, as per Point 6 of your post!!1. MAS-VLR Ord: 3rd to Dep & 1st to enter Madras carries no Mail Post (TT: 1861/1868 & Dec 1864 Post)2. MAS-TPT: 1st to Dep & 2nd to enter MAS Branch out at AJJ to Kadapa & Tripatore. Links past TPT: Beypore-Cannanore, SRR-TVC, Pothanoor-Nilgiri (1881 TPT Dep: 5:43, 6 AM (as in letter dated Dec 1864)3. MAS-CBE: 2nd to Dep & 3rd to enter MAS. Links all Stations till TPT & AJJ for SBC/Bellary/Bombay (Dec 1864 Post)1868. MAS-CBE was still 2nd...
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No MAS-Beypore but MAS-VLR, MAS-TPT, MAS-CBE trains till Dec 1864 as good as 1865, as per Point 6 of your post!!1. MAS-VLR Ord: 3rd to Dep & 1st to enter Madras carries no Mail Post (TT: 1861/1868 & Dec 1864 Post)2. MAS-TPT: 1st to Dep & 2nd to enter MAS Branch out at AJJ to Kadapa & Tripatore. Links past TPT: Beypore-Cannanore, SRR-TVC, Pothanoor-Nilgiri (1881 TPT Dep: 5:43, 6 AM (as in letter dated Dec 1864)3. MAS-CBE: 2nd to Dep & 3rd to enter MAS. Links all Stations till TPT & AJJ for SBC/Bellary/Bombay (Dec 1864 Post)1868. MAS-CBE was still 2nd...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
Pic 1: 1861 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays & Sunday) MAS Dep 6:15 Tripatoor Arr 13:11 (5 Halts Skip)Pic 2: 1868 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays) MAS Dep 7:00 CBE ARR 20:50 (4 Halts Skip)Pic 3: 1918 78 Pass MAS DEP 7:00 MTP ARR 6:00Morning Ordinary moved to CBE & then MTP and remain Pass!!..Continued
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12311/Netaji Express
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Pic 1: 1861 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays & Sunday) MAS Dep 6:15 Tripatoor Arr 13:11 (5 Halts Skip)Pic 2: 1868 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays) MAS Dep 7:00 CBE ARR 20:50 (4 Halts Skip)Pic 3: 1918 78 Pass MAS DEP 7:00 MTP ARR 6:00Morning Ordinary moved to CBE & then MTP and remain Pass!!..Continued
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12311/Netaji Express
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Pic 1: 1861 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays & Sunday) MAS Dep 6:15 Tripatoor Arr 13:11 (5 Halts Skip)Pic 2: 1868 Ordinary (1,2,3 Weekdays) MAS Dep 7:00 CBE ARR 20:50 (4 Halts Skip)Pic 3: 1918 78 Pass MAS DEP 7:00 MTP ARR 6:00Morning Ordinary moved to CBE & then MTP and remain Pass!!..Continued
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12311/Netaji Express
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Can you tell which Mail has to Cross Yamuna Bank to enter Delhi in 1866?? Which Mail it was which use to reach Yamuna West Bank since 1862?? Your 1867 TT show 1 Chord Mail in HWH-Delhi. Its obvious that 1 Mail will enter on 1 Jan 1867 at its Schedule as reported in Paper!!Thankfully that link was shared by you!!1. Teenpahar-Delhi: 7 Stations dont show in HWH-BWN (repeating third time) which clearly instates much count is missing in full route which is tough to compile in single page.2. You check Schedule which you show: 10 Mail run in MAS-MTP...
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"29 Dec 1866 Departing HWH-Delhi Mail arrived Delhi with 17 Coach (Full Construct with Evening DEP)"When the Howrah - Delhi train is stopping at every station between Teenpahar and Delhi - why do you call it a 'mail'? Just ignoring this part?Second thing - where did you get the data that the train that reached Delhi on the night of December 31, 1866 was from Howrah? The article I shared didn't mention the origin of the train - can you share any proof that it was from Howrah? Or should I just take your word for it?"1935: 10 Mail named Nilgiri....
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"why IR will term Passenger Service as Mail"Because there was no IR at that time. There was no IR till 1947, no railway zones till 1951. Before that different companies operated the railways and each of them ran their railways in the way they saw fit.You keep talking about mail/exp and passenger - have you done any research into what the type of trains were in the 1800s in each of the railway company? Just because EIR marked some train as mail, doesn't mean that every company had the same method.Attached are records of the Madras postal department from 1864 -...
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HWH/Howrah Junction
"why IR will term Passenger Service as Mail"Because there was no IR at that time. There was no IR till 1947, no railway zones till 1951. Before that different companies operated the railways and each of them ran their railways in the way they saw fit.You keep talking about mail/exp and passenger - have you done any research into what the type of trains were in the 1800s in each of the railway company? Just because EIR marked some train as mail, doesn't mean that every company had the same method.Attached are records of the Madras postal department from 1864 -...
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12311/Netaji Express
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1858: HWH-BWN Morning & Evening Train (MAS was no Live)1861: HWH-Raniganj 1 & 2 Mail (67 Miles in 2:55 Hrs against 4:02 Hrs of Pass1861: MAS-Tripatoor 1,2,3 Class Pass (65 Miles in 3:30 vs 3:31 Hrs of other Pass)1867: HWH-Delhi- 1 Chord Mail (67 Miles in 1:51 Hrs (Now 1 Mail not 1 & 2)1868: MAS-Beypore- 1 & 2 Class MAS-Beypore (Still Passenger)
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You are comfortably ignoring things that do not fit into your story and calling out on others.I shared the 1868 TT which showed the Calcutta Delhi train stopping at EVERY STATION between Teenpahar and Delhi - that is 93 stops over ~820 miles of journey. Is that not a passenger? 1868 Beypore train - Skipping Cudumbathoor, Chinnampet, Sholingur, MAilputty and Theruvellum between Madras and Ambur, halting at every station after that till Beypore1868 Calcutta Delhi train - Skipping some stations between Howrah and Teenpahar, stopping at every station afterwards.Both trains have similar ways of operation - limited halts for one...
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You are comfortably ignoring things that do not fit into your story and calling out on others.I shared the 1868 TT which showed the Calcutta Delhi train stopping at EVERY STATION between Teenpahar and Delhi - that is 93 stops over ~820 miles of journey. Is that not a passenger? 1868 Beypore train - Skipping Cudumbathoor, Chinnampet, Sholingur, MAilputty and Theruvellum between Madras and Ambur, halting at every station after that till Beypore1868 Calcutta Delhi train - Skipping some stations between Howrah and Teenpahar, stopping at every station afterwards.Both trains have similar ways of operation - limited halts for one...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
Hold on. 10 Mail primarily connects MAS-MTP in 1918. 12 Mail is PTJ-MAQ Mail, got Slip from 10 Mail at PTJ!!Pic 1 (1944): 10 Mail become Nilgiri (MAS Dep - 10 Mail 20:00, Nilgiri 20:05, Malabar 19:10!! 76 Pass seems successor of MAS-Bypore Pass with Morning Dep!!Pic 2 (1955): Nilgiri 20:15, Malabar Exp become 513 Mangalore Exp 19:30Pic 3 (1960): 5 Nilgiri Exp 20:15, 1 Mangalore Mail 18:10 There is enough evidence to believe MAS-Beypore Pass become MAS-MTP Pass (Morning DEP). 10 Mail can be seen in 1918 with through Coach attach to 12 Mail in PTJ-MAQ (Fresh MAS-MAQ Slip Link)....
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Hold on. 10 Mail primarily connects MAS-MTP in 1918. 12 Mail is PTJ-MAQ Mail, got Slip from 10 Mail at PTJ!!Pic 1 (1944): 10 Mail become Nilgiri (MAS Dep - 10 Mail 20:00, Nilgiri 20:05, Malabar 19:10!! 76 Pass seems successor of MAS-Bypore Pass with Morning Dep!!Pic 2 (1955): Nilgiri 20:15, Malabar Exp become 513 Mangalore Exp 19:30Pic 3 (1960): 5 Nilgiri Exp 20:15, 1 Mangalore Mail 18:10 There is enough evidence to believe MAS-Beypore Pass become MAS-MTP Pass (Morning DEP). 10 Mail can be seen in 1918 with through Coach attach to 12 Mail in PTJ-MAQ (Fresh MAS-MAQ Slip Link)....
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Hold on. 10 Mail primarily connects MAS-MTP in 1918. 12 Mail is PTJ-MAQ Mail, got Slip from 10 Mail at PTJ!!Pic 1 (1944): 10 Mail become Nilgiri (MAS Dep - 10 Mail 20:00, Nilgiri 20:05, Malabar 19:10!! 76 Pass seems successor of MAS-Bypore Pass with Morning Dep!!Pic 2 (1955): Nilgiri 20:15, Malabar Exp become 513 Mangalore Exp 19:30Pic 3 (1960): 5 Nilgiri Exp 20:15, 1 Mangalore Mail 18:10 There is enough evidence to believe MAS-Beypore Pass become MAS-MTP Pass (Morning DEP). 10 Mail can be seen in 1918 with through Coach attach to 12 Mail in PTJ-MAQ (Fresh MAS-MAQ Slip Link)....
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12311/Netaji Express
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1/2 Mail 1867 (Pic). Liluah, Sheoraphul, Bhadreshwar, Trishbigha, Khanyan, Debipur, Rasulpur dont show in 1868. 7 out of 19 dont show in HWH-BWN. Can expect huge Station amiss in BWN-DLI impossible to summarize in a page.1 Chord Mail was via ASN in 1867 with less stops but anyway. 1/2 Mail in 1861 till Raniganj, 1/2 Mail in 1866 (17 Coach-No Slips @ ALD), 1/2 Mail in 1867 via ASN, 1/2 Mail in 1868 via Sahibganj, 1/2 Mail in 1990's. I dont know what you wish to prove by Slips? Dilution?
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12311/Netaji Express
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1858 Pic1: Calcutta-Allahabad & Allahabad Kanpur 1400 Kms Track Opened (Oct). 430 Kms of MAS-Beypore Complete (MAS-Beypore wasnt finished in 1861 Report)!!Pic 2/3: Bombay Mahim Local running * Bombay-Campoolee, Bhore Ghat Foot Convey, Khandala Poonah Passenger LivePic 4: HWH-Raniganj Pass Service. I can say it as Predecessor of 1/2 Mail which was running as early as in 1858 (as you do) but will not as they were Passenger not marked Mail & got different schedule!!
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12311/Netaji Express
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1858 Pic1: Calcutta-Allahabad & Allahabad Kanpur 1400 Kms Track Opened (Oct). 430 Kms of MAS-Beypore Complete (MAS-Beypore wasnt finished in 1861 Report)!!Pic 2/3: Bombay Mahim Local running * Bombay-Campoolee, Bhore Ghat Foot Convey, Khandala Poonah Passenger LivePic 4: HWH-Raniganj Pass Service. I can say it as Predecessor of 1/2 Mail which was running as early as in 1858 (as you do) but will not as they were Passenger not marked Mail & got different schedule!!
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1858 Pic1: Calcutta-Allahabad & Allahabad Kanpur 1400 Kms Track Opened (Oct). 430 Kms of MAS-Beypore Complete (MAS-Beypore wasnt finished in 1861 Report)!!Pic 2/3: Bombay Mahim Local running * Bombay-Campoolee, Bhore Ghat Foot Convey, Khandala Poonah Passenger LivePic 4: HWH-Raniganj Pass Service. I can say it as Predecessor of 1/2 Mail which was running as early as in 1858 (as you do) but will not as they were Passenger not marked Mail & got different schedule!!
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12311/Netaji Express
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1858 Pic1: Calcutta-Allahabad & Allahabad Kanpur 1400 Kms Track Opened (Oct). 430 Kms of MAS-Beypore Complete (MAS-Beypore wasnt finished in 1861 Report)!!Pic 2/3: Bombay Mahim Local running * Bombay-Campoolee, Bhore Ghat Foot Convey, Khandala Poonah Passenger LivePic 4: HWH-Raniganj Pass Service. I can say it as Predecessor of 1/2 Mail which was running as early as in 1858 (as you do) but will not as they were Passenger not marked Mail & got different schedule!!
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"29/30 in 1944 TT not 1/2"Attached is a scan from the 1944 Bradshaw - Notice Malabar express is numbered "13/14" and Blue Mountain express is numbered 45/50. (No, this is not an error, it was indeed numbered like this. You can confirm this through the IRFCA forums as well). 29/30 is the number of a different train introduced between Calicut and Ernakulam that was renamed as 'Malabar express'. In 1955 TT (from IRFCA - click here )Blue Mountain is renamed as Nilagiri express and renumbered as 545/546. Malabar express is renamed as Mangalore express and is renumbered as 513/514. Also observe...
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"29/30 in 1944 TT not 1/2"Attached is a scan from the 1944 Bradshaw - Notice Malabar express is numbered "13/14" and Blue Mountain express is numbered 45/50. (No, this is not an error, it was indeed numbered like this. You can confirm this through the IRFCA forums as well). 29/30 is the number of a different train introduced between Calicut and Ernakulam that was renamed as 'Malabar express'. In 1955 TT (from IRFCA - click here )Blue Mountain is renamed as Nilagiri express and renumbered as 545/546. Malabar express is renamed as Mangalore express and is renumbered as 513/514. Also observe...
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"You may change name but Number]"There was no such rule, sir. Different railway companies followed different numbering schemes. Even after independence, before introduction of the 4 digit numbering, trains often had different numbers on different zones. (This was standardized in the 1960s).Punjab mail was 5/6 in CR and 37/38 in NR. Pathankot express (present day 11057/58) was 197/198 on CR and 57/58 on NR.Similarly, before independence too trains changed numbers on different railway networks. Punjab mail was 5/6 on GIPR and 3/4 on NWR (85/86 in later years). Attached are timetables from 1918 for the Amritsar-Delhi and Delhi- Bombay routes. Note...
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"You may change name but Number]"There was no such rule, sir. Different railway companies followed different numbering schemes. Even after independence, before introduction of the 4 digit numbering, trains often had different numbers on different zones. (This was standardized in the 1960s).Punjab mail was 5/6 in CR and 37/38 in NR. Pathankot express (present day 11057/58) was 197/198 on CR and 57/58 on NR.Similarly, before independence too trains changed numbers on different railway networks. Punjab mail was 5/6 on GIPR and 3/4 on NWR (85/86 in later years). Attached are timetables from 1918 for the Amritsar-Delhi and Delhi- Bombay routes. Note...
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"MAS-MAQ: 1907 Malabar. MAS-Beypore/SBC: 1868 Pass not Mail [29/30 in 1944 TT not 1/2. You may change name but Number]It was NOT named 'Malabar express' in 1907.Attached is a scan of the 1918 TT -The Mangalore mail is numbered 10 Dn on the Madras - Podanur section. (MSMR) This reached Podanur at 8:18 AM in the morning and departed from Podanur at 8:55 AM as the 12 Dn SIR mail. A portion of the train ran to Mettupalayam and departed from Podanur at 8:48AM.The Malabar express was a faster version of the Mangalore mail introduced in 1929 ( Like how the...
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"MAS-MAQ: 1907 Malabar. MAS-Beypore/SBC: 1868 Pass not Mail [29/30 in 1944 TT not 1/2. You may change name but Number]It was NOT named 'Malabar express' in 1907.Attached is a scan of the 1918 TT -The Mangalore mail is numbered 10 Dn on the Madras - Podanur section. (MSMR) This reached Podanur at 8:18 AM in the morning and departed from Podanur at 8:55 AM as the 12 Dn SIR mail. A portion of the train ran to Mettupalayam and departed from Podanur at 8:48AM.The Malabar express was a faster version of the Mangalore mail introduced in 1929 ( Like how the...
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Quoting your post from the other thread - "MAS-Beypore run dated 1868 shows Beypore train depart 5 PM, stops at every station like Passenger & so does other trains to CBE/SBC (these were no Mail which always got limited stops)"As I said earlier, the traffic back then was too low, so the trains that carried the mail also stopped everywhere.Attached is a timetable from 1868 of the East Indian Railway from Howrah to Delhi - Notice that there are two trains running from Howrah to Delhi and both of them stop at ALL stations between Teenpahar and Delhi. If the...
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Quoting your post from the other thread - "MAS-Beypore run dated 1868 shows Beypore train depart 5 PM, stops at every station like Passenger & so does other trains to CBE/SBC (these were no Mail which always got limited stops)"As I said earlier, the traffic back then was too low, so the trains that carried the mail also stopped everywhere.Attached is a timetable from 1868 of the East Indian Railway from Howrah to Delhi - Notice that there are two trains running from Howrah to Delhi and both of them stop at ALL stations between Teenpahar and Delhi. If the...
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Quoting your post from the other thread - "MAS-Beypore run dated 1868 shows Beypore train depart 5 PM, stops at every station like Passenger & so does other trains to CBE/SBC (these were no Mail which always got limited stops)"As I said earlier, the traffic back then was too low, so the trains that carried the mail also stopped everywhere.Attached is a timetable from 1868 of the East Indian Railway from Howrah to Delhi - Notice that there are two trains running from Howrah to Delhi and both of them stop at ALL stations between Teenpahar and Delhi. If the...
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1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
1861 Pic 9: EIR 1/2 Mail Clearly Marked & hence oldest Running Train. HWH-BWN-RaniganjPic 2/3: GIPR: Mixed Service. Bombay-KSRA, Thul Ghat Convey, IGP-CSN * Bombay-Tillowlee, Bhore Ghat Convey, KAD-Pune/SURPic 4: BB&CI: Mixed Service BL-AKV, Horse/Carriage, BH-BRCPic 6: Madras Railway: 1,2,3 Passenger MAS-Tripatoor. MAS DEP/ARR: 1861 6:15/20:31 MAQ Mail 20:20/5:40. With opposite schedule it cant be forerunner of MAQ Mail. 1861/1868 Pass MAS DEP MAS @ 6:15/05:00 Malabar 1935 DEP 20:05. Malabar Exp & MAQ Mail together cant be successor of 1,2,3 Pass with opposite schedule (No M/E in MAS-MAQ till 1868 & i guess not before 1907. Till 1955 none 1/2...
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
Lol
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02311X/Netaji SF Special
HWH/Howrah Junction
Name change wef 23.01.2021
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12311/Netaji Express
I think Kalka Mail never got such attention before trending on Social media platforms with Neta ji Tag.Powerful train shines with Powerful Name.Now Kalka Mail aka Neta Ji SF Express will be more prior than before in attention. Am happy that.
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12311/Netaji Express
HWH/Howrah Junction
12311/12312 Kalka Mail ( Historical 1 up 2 down Kalka Mail will be renamed as " NETAJI EXPRESS" commemorate the great escape of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's from Calcutta to form INA.Jay Hind
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