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17623⇒22723/Hazur Sahib Nanded - Shri Ganganagar SF Express (via Ahmedabad)
हजूर साहिब नान्देड - श्री गंगानगर सुपरफास्ट एक्सप्रेस (वाया अहमदाबाद)

BH/Bharuch Junction --> BRC/Vadodara Junction

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Jul 27 (09:52)   22724/Shri Ganganagar - Hazur Sahib Nanded SF Express (via Ahmedabad) (PT)
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This train does have feasibility as per NWR's proposal to extend up to Rameswaram for two reasons apart from the fact of another train having more chances and feasibility to extend up to RMM, which is SGNR-TPJ Humsafar Express even though it bypasses majority of TN's imp station, not a problem though since it provides connectivity to UBL, MRJ. Main concern is, whether SCR agreed to this since its their rake and whether SR agreed to give path?

Now getting to the point about feasibility,
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number 1. Having a slot all the way from NED up to RMM(path of 09519/20) via KCG with two-three options between KPD-RMM which can also save hrs of time to do PM at RMM.

2. Sufficient lie-over time and turn around time at NED(Existing RSA of this train can be arranged with other rakes, now that LHB conversion is happening frequently)

This route/extension will provide Rajasthan, Gujarat connectivity to Major TN, AP and TL towns and cities compared to Humsafar~ some stations being first time and others, additional connectivity.

Likewise it also provides good Pilgrimage Connectivity (TPTY, TNM, TPJ/Entire Mainline, MDU, RMM) to AP, TL and MH pilgrims and Vice Versa.

What do you think?

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Jul 27 (11:00)
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I agree that connectivity wise this extension will serve better but it is way much circuitous (Already MDU - OKHA plies on a similar route). But, I am not against it or supporting the extension though.
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I think you are underestimating the connection SGNR TPJ provides for TPJ or if it will get extended to RMM. TPJ SGNR is one single train passing through many major metropolitan cities like Salem, Bengaluru (K.R.Puram), Davangere, Hubbali, Belagavi (one can take buses here for Panjim), Kolhapur (from Miraj/belagavi), Pune, Kalyan (for Mumbai), Surat, Vadodara, Ahmedabad,
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Marwar(for ajmer), Jodhpur, Bikaner through shorter route and convenient timings. Among the above places, many doesn't even have their direct train to rameswaram say for eg. Mumbai.
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Moreover, it does byepass only Jolarpettai at Tamilnadu. Even if it gets extended to rameswaram, it would be covering Ramanathapuram distri ct, western parts of sivagangai and pudukottai districts, Tiruchy, karur, namakkal, salem, thirupathur districts which is obviously not just a small part of tamilnadu. Agree it can get more halts in Tamilnadu though.
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I genuinely believe that extension of SGNR - TPJ - SGNR would be one of the best bet for Rameswaram in terms of connectivity.

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Jul 27 (11:17)
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I am neutral towards this extension. But a new weekly in this slot will be best solution than disturbing existing pattern. TPJ SGNR already providing the base connectivity. A weekly in this slot would be boon to pilgrims travelling.
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Jul 27 (14:01)
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I'm not under estimating Humsafar, it's just that I'm trying to uncover the reason behind NWR's proposal. I agree to majority of points you said including the circuitous MDU OKHA SPL, in fact you know I also posted a blog welcoming TPJ ADI diversion offering direct connectivity to KLBG,SUR, PUNE and Mumbai with Ahmedabad.

In my POV, existing MDU SPL and this proposal are much alike and caters to different sections, can also be split and said as ADI-KCG-MDU via NED, TPTY/RU, TNM/Mainline. You understand what I am trying to say
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Instead of end to end bookings, this will have section wise bookings. There are lot of long distance trains from TN via Chennai and Best example here is MDU-OKHA or we can say ADI-KCG-TNM-(MDU/RMM). Both trains are/will cater differently and in this train, there are SL, 3A coaches..

Once again, I too expect shortest and straight route once it gets out of TN but here the motive is different, At the same time NWR's proposal exposed that SCR can also operate a special using the same rake in the said slot/ RMM-OKHA(SR) slot with minor modifications b/w KPD-RMM.

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Jul 27 (16:04)
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Thing is, it is always not necessary for trains between two places to take shortest possible route and sometimes, the connectivity also matters, and yes the concept of split caterance does work quite well for many such existing trains.
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But, trains like 22723/24, 12485/86 for that matter has its own caterance and there are good number of rajasthani people live in the region of Marathwada and, there are only handful of trains dedicated for them from Marathwada to Rajasthan and among those, more than half are passing through ones (trains like HYB
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- JP - HYB triweekly, HYB - HSR - HYB weekly, JP - KRNT - JP weekly). Issue is, even if these trains are extended then ticket availablity for them (i.e, the quota allocation) will be very much decreased. So, it is better trains like 22723/22724 and 12485/12486 remains the same way as it is now, dedicated to Marathwada for Rajasthan. Though NWR proposed this one, hope it doesn't gets through.
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There is no doubt that that route needs an enhanced connectivity with split caterance, which already a weekly regular train ( RMM - OKHA - RMM ) and a weekly special train ( OKHA - MDU - OKHA ) is satisfying via Aurangabad and via Akola respectively. Adding to that, a train in that route to Rajasthan would be very much appreciated.
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For that, 06181/82 Coimbatore - Bhagat ki Kothi - Coimbatore special, which runs in a route and slot similar to OKHA - MDU - OKHA, should be made a regular train IMO.

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Mar 29 2018 (07:39)   22913/Bandra Terminus - Saharsa Humsafar Express | JL/Jalgaon Junction (6 PFs)
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OKHA PURI DWARKA EXP
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RJT REWA EXP
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ADI YPR EXP
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ST AMI EXP
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BKN SC EXP
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SHRAMIK EXP
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PRERNA SF EXP
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GIMB VSKP EXP
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PBR SRC KAVIGURU EXP
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AII PURI EXP
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BDTS PNBE SF EXP
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NAVJEEVAN EXP
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JU MS SF EXP
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TAPTI GANGA EXP
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UDN JYG ANTYODAYA EXP
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BDTS PNBE HUMSAFAR EXP
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OKHA RMM EXP
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PBR/OKHA HWH SF EXP
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ADI PURI VIA VZM
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ADI HWH SF EXP
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GIMB PURI SF EXP VIA BBS
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Jun 18 (19:33)   IMG19582-2130598/♥♥FIROZPUR CANTT VERAVAL BI WEEKLY SUPERFAST EXPRESS♥♥ | HAPA/Hapa (3 PFs)
Nothingispermanentvalid~
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Railways should run a new bi weekly train between Firozpur Cantt and Hapa via Fazilka Shri Ganganagar Jodhpur Bhildi Viramgam and should run this train with 22 icf coaches with primary maintenance at Veraval jn and for further information refer to these blogs - 6099151 , 6099178 or refer to the links given below -

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Jun 18 (18:58)   IMG19581-2130598/♥♥VERAVAL FIROZPUR CANTT BI WEEKLY SUPERFAST EXPRESS♥♥ | HAPA/Hapa (3 PFs)
Nothingispermanentvalid~
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Railways should run a new bi weekly train between Hapa and Firozpur Cantt via Bhildi Bikaner Shri Ganganagar Fazilka and should run this train with 22 ICF coaches and should do it's primary maintenance at Veraval jn and for further information refer to these blogs - 6099151, 6099178 or refer to the links given below -

/train/229970
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Jun 02 (16:46)   22723/Hazur Sahib Nanded - Shri Ganganagar SF Express (via Ahmedabad) | HSR/Hisar Junction (6 PFs)
Nothingispermanentvalid~
Nothingispermanentvalid~   517 blog posts
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Railways should extend 22723/24 Shri Ganganagar Hazur Sahib Nanded express upto Kacheguda and should also change the timings of this train and for further information refer to these blogs - 6061207 , 6060523 or refer to below given links -

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Railways should permanently run a new bi weekly train between Kacheguda and Shri Ganganagar by using rakes of these trains 07053/54 Lalgarh Kacheguda express and 07055/56 Hisar Kacheguda express and (should also merge these trains 07053/54 and 07055/56) after merging and regularizing both above given trains railways should extend this train upto Shri Ganganagar and should run this train as 17039 /40 Shri Ganganagar Kacheguda bi weekly express via Hanumangarh jn and for further information refer to these blogs - 6060455 , 6060169 or refer to below given links -

/train/227643

/train/227673

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