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Blog Entry# 3300038
Posted: Apr 14 2018 (00:46)

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Last Response: May 06 2018 (20:39)
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Apr 14 2018 (00:46)  
Dhanno
Dhanno   3041 blog posts
Entry# 3300038               Past Edits
A poll to get your opinion on a new change I noticed.
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The "Rating Score" has now included TL count too.
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My questions:
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Shouldn't TL be in the separate TL header? Why bring its score under Forum score?
2. If total conf TL is added, then shouldn't the 'total Green Flags of IMG trains' be added to the "Rating Score"?
3. If total conf TL is added, then shouldn't the total PNR predictions be added to the "Rating Score"?
4. If total conf TL is added, then shouldn't the 'total vigilance score' be added to the "Rating Score"?
5. If total conf TL is added, then shouldn't the total votes garnered from the polls conducted be added to the "Rating Score"?
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Because if "Rating Score" reflects total effort of the member (by adding conf TLs), then I believe other efforts of the member too should be added.
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Yes. Everything should be added.
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Yes. Some of them should be added. .... in comments reply.
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No. Let it be restored to the way it was previously.
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This new score is ok.
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Apr 14 2018 (02:25)
Arun   1967 blog posts
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Moderator,
1. Please restore back the old type of score.
2. The TL system is horribly manipulated.
- Members to increase their count just keep updating PF nos. as it is. Increase the score and become TLMs.
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Just look at the TL right now - loco links are given even before train gets E-Loco change. Just like that..... It is so lop sided against ordinary members. You have done absolutely nothing to correct this lopsidedness - though so many members have complained again and again.
- Someone gives enough proof to prove a TL, it gets nullified. But someone produces some scrap screenshot and on that basis the info gets voided. No one questions the ss, but enough to void the member's effort. Then we have to beg (yes, BEG) FMs, you and get the decision reversed.
---- Now by bringing in TL rating to Forum score, you have simply ruined whatever was existing in the first place.
3. If you value contribution so much then why not add vigilance score to the total? FMs are doing their duty - add their FM score. Add the vigilance score of members.... We are being vigilant for your site only right? So, add them. Else don't bring TL score to Forum score.
4. You promised points system, didn't bring it in. Then atleast leave the existing system as it is.
5. I gave a simple site suggestion /blog/post/2811634 - Just to add an option - no reply nothing.....
6. We don't get any money from the rating score. But for me its underlines and reflects my contribution.

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Apr 14 2018 (04:23)
moderator^~   16811 blog posts
Re# 3300038-2               Past Edits
It is being stated that people keep updating locos and platforms and other train details, and their TL score rises rapidly and they quickly become TLMs.
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The next sentence contradictorily says that because of the "lopsided system" against members, their updates are being voided, and so the members' TL score is "NOT" able to rise rapidly, and so they are NOT able to become TLMs.
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Yes, we do not have a points system yet, and PF updates currently have the same weight as TT update. This will be done soon. The TL score reflects only "Confirmed" TL updates - confirmed by TLMs. Waitlisted/Voided TLs will not have any effect on Rating Score.
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As per the system we have, all members are allowed to have a full discussion of updates before reporting to FMs. First-level TL complaints to FMs without a full discussion, are always voided. And wrong updates do get eventually voided lead
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Yes, the Vigilance Score can be added to the Rating Score. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Apr 14 2018 (16:35)
Arun   1967 blog posts
Re# 3300038-3               Past Edits
1. "contradictorily" - yes, there are members (some) in this forum who simply don't update wrong loco details. They just update correct and known information.
And there are members who painstakingly do updates of inaugural trains which again someone updates a wrong date and stamps it themselves.
Now I can go on and name names, but a perusal of my recent comments will show you what I am speaking about. And that's just to give an example.
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there are so many examples that I and many members can give.
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2. Voided? Really? When I posted this comment, I told - "Just look at the TL right now - loco links are given even before train gets E-Loco change." The trains which still haven't got E-Loco have been updated with E-Locos from many sheds.
Full discussion ? Full discussion is a myth. We saw how a TLM who questioned an Admin for wrong Atlas updates and finally gave up. Imagine a member arguing against an Admin or TLM. And would you intervene and question that Admin or TLM? No you conveniently blame us who question the wrong TL. The wrong updater becomes the victim and we the members who question, become the culprit.
Ex. from your statement:
"Pl. note that ALL member updates are highly appreciated on this site. We just cannot have rudeness and dis-harmony here. Above all, members' seniority and past participation in this site is most respected, and we do not allow their reputation to be tarnished because of one update or the other. Although this site is about rail info, we value human dignity above railway updates."
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No question of yanking the power off these false updaters/stampers and so they continue in their merry way. And when you portray us a villains, then who will question false updates?
FMs used to question these guys and now conveniently with you putting the onus on others, no one will question.
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3. "PF updates currently have the same weight as TT update." ---- Really? So many times you said TT updation is the most important.
I think - PF updation is basically an add-on like - if a small station has just 1 or 2 PFs, so convenient to update all trains that halt there. And now you are equating TT to PF updation?
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Here's you saying:
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"The reason for this is that some kinds of updates require more hard work and are more useful than others."
"So, for instance, TT updates, Train News (Latest) will have up to 3X the number of points for Train Name updates."
Now you are contradicting yourself. You value TT updation around 3 times more and now you are equating that to PF updation!!!?
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Leaving alone what you said, I am sure there are many members who will contradict you that TT updation is valued more and difficult than PF updation.
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May 06 2018 (20:39)
Dhanno   3041 blog posts
Re# 3300038-4              
No use of this poll. The majority (80%) didn't want TLs to be included in forum score but Moderator didn't accept /blog/post/3387937
Thanks for voting anyway......
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