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Blog Entry# 5244795
Posted: Mar 16 2022 (20:30)

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Last Response: Mar 17 2022 (08:14)
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Mar 16 2022 (20:30)  
Sakthivel~
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Route of Jaipur Udaipur and Jaipur Daulatpur Chowk trains was completely electrified. Still NWR dont have guts to give e loco😠😡 why? Then what is the use of electrification and wasting crores of rupees for this? Also there are still many trains that were running in diesel loco eventhough the section was newly electrified. Another example is ashram express not giving e loco due to an silly reason by Delhi division is "neutral section". Why they dont have change platform for arrival to solve this issue? Even Yoga express also passing via Delhi jn and getting e loco. also there are plenty of WAP7 to haul passenger trains.
List of trains which routes are completely or partly electrified but running
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with d loco
1) Ajmer Amritsar Express via Dhuri
2) Ala Hazrat express (loco change at Ajmer instead of Palanpur)
3) Some Kerala trains to Delhi via Konkan route (TVC NZM weekly express via Konkan)
4) Marusagar express
5)Ahmedabad Katra weekly (can be given e loco until Bhatinda)
6) Ranikhet express (e loco from Marwar to Moradabad) and so more...

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Mar 16 2022 (20:33)
TouristerDivyanshu^~
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I guess
Eloco issues with NWR
They dont have pretty much
Also need LPs for elocos
They have all diesel lobbies now after electrification lobbies will be for electric and training of LPs
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may be done
Sooner or later they all get elocos
As per RB circular running dloco under wire needs GM permission
Then there will surely some big reasons
My opinion is that they dont have enough elocos

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Mar 16 2022 (20:39)
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last year i think so, an wap4 was transferred to abu road dls. and recently ajmer workshop also poh ed an wag7 locomotive. Surely due to HR pantho issues only. But some BRC and GZB WAP 7 had HR locos which was used hauling ADI Raj Yoga and ala hazrat. a few months ago i saw an video posted by an jaipuri wala youtuber Pulkit singh. In that GKP ADI weekly express was hauled by BSL WAP4 But they changed loco to diesel because the loco doesnt have HR panthos.
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Mar 16 2022 (20:46)
TouristerDivyanshu^~
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ABR has 2 wap-4 and 2 wag ×

They dont have elocos
Also as u said dont have HR panto locos
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Mar 16 2022 (20:48)
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i think so same situation for suryanagri and ranakpur express too even if marwar - luni - jodhpur section was electrified
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Mar 17 2022 (08:14)
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Thanks for giving important info😊
Let's clear out some points here.
- No wastage of money with electrification because the Diesel cost is still saved by using Elocos on freight trains which can burn a lot of diesel while idling on a loop line waiting to get overtaken by a train or waiting for clearance.
- NWR does not have their own Eloco shed to allot locos to those trains. Right now ABR staff is getting trained with some WAP4s and hopefully once that is sorted out TKD/GZB/BRC or any other shed will start transferring locos to them.
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Fresh allotments will happen but will be limited due to less manufacturing of Passenger ELocos
- High Rise OHE is an issue for delivering a high speed safer ride in a passenger train. They require special loco to be equipped with High Rise panto which is progressing but in a good pace. GZB/BRC/TKD are ready with many HR locos but those are being alloted to their respective zonal trains.
- Delhi Sarai Rohilla has some incomplete electrification that needs to be sorted out which will take time and won't happen instantly. Until it's not sorted Elocos to some trains won't be provided.
- It is not easy to change a trains platform in a pinch. A schedule is made and this is a systematic process where trains timetable needs to be followed and lines needs to be adjusted for a smoother flowing.
- Other zones cannot just allot their locos to a train that is out of their zone. There is a system that checks and balances the mileage of these locos and cost is a factor too. Imagine this scenario where BRC P7 is hauling Udaipur Jaipur Intercity on a daily basis and suddenly it has a cattle run-over. In that case, the damage to the locomotive needs to be covered by WR. But the train the loco was hauling and the zone it was going through was NWR. Cost and management of this will take a long time and WRs budget will be ruined.
- Giving an Eloco to a daily train is a priority then a weekly train. WR would not want their loco to be rested in Bathinda for 48 hours or whatever the schedule presist. Because they need them for other trains too.

Hopefully this makes sense.

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