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Posted: May 10 2015 (14:17)
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May 10 2015 (14:17) 12583/Lucknow Jn. - Anand Vihar Terminal AC Double Decker Express
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May 10 2015 (5:08PM)
What m trying to say is a icf shat can b easily ran with 15coaches carrying almost same no
but Now since now DD sud b ran only on existing shat routes only
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:53PM)
Last but not d least, some positive scope
DDs wud b a assest where it can replace 24coacher or max coaches train with same comfort and everything
(Courtesy: ABhishek SIngh)
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:33PM)
*heavy investment and manpower in R&D
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:26PM)
Not to forget
*RDSO trials and certificate
*CRS trails
*curve issues
*pf manipulation
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Dhanbad - Howrah AC Double Decker Express/12386 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express/12385 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bangalore - Chennai AC Double Decker Express/22626 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Chennai - Bangalore AC Double Decker Express/22625 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Indore - Bhopal AC Double Decker Express/22186 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bhopal - Indore AC Double Decker Express/22185 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Indore-Bhopal Habibganj AC Double Decker Express/22184 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bhopal Habibganj-Indore AC Double Decker Express/22183 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Tirupati AC Double Decker Express/22120 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Tirupati - Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22119 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Tirupati AC Double Decker Express/22120 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Tirupati - Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22119 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Guntur AC Double Decker Express/22118 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Guntur – Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22117 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Delhi Sarai Rohilla - Jaipur AC Double Decker Express/12986 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Jaipur-Delhi Sarai Rohilla AC Double Decker Express/12985 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Ahmedabad-Mumbai Central AC Double Decker Express/12932 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Mumbai Central-Ahmedabad AC Double Decker Express/12931 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Delhi Anand ViharT - Lucknow Double Decker Express/12584 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:18PM)
Train Tag: Lucknow - Delhi Anand ViharT Double Decker Express/12583 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
What m trying to say is a icf shat can b easily ran with 15coaches carrying almost same no
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:53PM)
Last but not d least, some positive scope
DDs wud b a assest where it can replace 24coacher or max coaches train with same comfort and everything
(Courtesy: ABhishek SIngh)
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:33PM)
*heavy investment and manpower in R&D
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:26PM)
Not to forget
*RDSO trials and certificate
*CRS trails
*curve issues
*pf manipulation
E&OE
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Dhanbad - Howrah AC Double Decker Express/12386 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express/12385 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bangalore - Chennai AC Double Decker Express/22626 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Chennai - Bangalore AC Double Decker Express/22625 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Indore - Bhopal AC Double Decker Express/22186 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bhopal - Indore AC Double Decker Express/22185 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Indore-Bhopal Habibganj AC Double Decker Express/22184 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Bhopal Habibganj-Indore AC Double Decker Express/22183 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Tirupati AC Double Decker Express/22120 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Tirupati - Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22119 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Tirupati AC Double Decker Express/22120 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Tirupati - Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22119 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Kacheguda – Guntur AC Double Decker Express/22118 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Guntur – Kacheguda AC Double Decker Express/22117 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Delhi Sarai Rohilla - Jaipur AC Double Decker Express/12986 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Jaipur-Delhi Sarai Rohilla AC Double Decker Express/12985 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Ahmedabad-Mumbai Central AC Double Decker Express/12932 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Mumbai Central-Ahmedabad AC Double Decker Express/12931 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:19PM)
Train Tag: Delhi Anand ViharT - Lucknow Double Decker Express/12584 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
May 10 2015 (2:18PM)
Train Tag: Lucknow - Delhi Anand ViharT Double Decker Express/12583 added by Prakhar Yadav**/622971
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...THE AC DOUBLE DECKER...
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Indian Railways launched much hyped a new category of trains i.e. "AC Double Decker" on various routes in 2011 during Ms. Mamta Banerjee rail ministry
.
WR Ahmedabad -...
more...
.
Indian Railways launched much hyped a new category of trains i.e. "AC Double Decker" on various routes in 2011 during Ms. Mamta Banerjee rail ministry
.
WR Ahmedabad -...
more...
Mumbai Central Double Decker Express
WCR Bhopal – Indore Double Decker Express [RSA]
SR Chennai - Bangalore Double Decker Express
SCR Guntur - Kacheguda Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
ECR Habibganj - Indore Junction Double Decker Express [RSA]
ER Howrah – Dhanbad Double Decker Express [DEFUNCT]
NWR Jaipur - Delhi Sarai Rohilla Double Decker Express
SCR Kacheguda - Tirupati Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
NER Lucknow - Anand Vihar Double Decker Express
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Of these many couldn't b a success probably due to :-
*Less Leg Room (Legs seems to be crushed)
*Width of seats is less (fat people cant travel comfortably)
*Luggage Problem
*Lack of PC on longer routes/ journey (AC pax dont prefer to get down to buy RAIL NEER/soft drinks etc )
*(Inputs welcomed)
.
Not to forget
*heavy investment and manpower in R&D
*RDSO trials and certificate
*CRS trails
*curve issues
*pf manipulation
.
The POINT is dont run DDs for d sake of running tag "DOUBLE DECKER" in the country.
its a waste exercise if its not ran in conducive way or optimum utilized.
.
But v hav witnessed certain DDs which r successful such as JP-DEE, ADI-BCT, MAS-SBC, LJN-ANVT but lets us clear that dese have become successful dont bcoz of DOUBLE DECKER concept but bcoz of route demanding a AC train. not to forget JP-DEE has 2 shat EC coaches.
.
another point
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consider newly inaugurated LJN-ANVT DD which has 10 CC
so lets compare
10x120=1200 seats
15*78=1170 seats
What m trying to say is a icf shat can b easily ran with 15coaches carrying almost same no. of passengers
.
there r HBJ - INDB -BPL - INDB - HBJ DD which jst hav 3 coaches whereas it was said DD wud clear rush
what a joke !
instead of above DD, a simple ICE consisting of GEN, 2S, CC would do boon for passengers
.
Therefore, I wud suggest to run ICF shats without catering charges on wherever routes required.
.
Now dese existing DD sud b ran only on existing shat routes only.
I have heard manufacturing of DD has been stopped.
.
Last but not d least, some positive scope.
DDs wud b a assest where it can replace 24coacher or max coaches train with same comfort and everything....
(Courtesy: ABhishek SIngh)
.
Feedbacks plz !
(inputs also welcomed)
.
E&OE
WCR Bhopal – Indore Double Decker Express [RSA]
SR Chennai - Bangalore Double Decker Express
SCR Guntur - Kacheguda Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
ECR Habibganj - Indore Junction Double Decker Express [RSA]
ER Howrah – Dhanbad Double Decker Express [DEFUNCT]
NWR Jaipur - Delhi Sarai Rohilla Double Decker Express
SCR Kacheguda - Tirupati Double Decker Express [RSA] [to be DEFUNCT]
NER Lucknow - Anand Vihar Double Decker Express
.
Of these many couldn't b a success probably due to :-
*Less Leg Room (Legs seems to be crushed)
*Width of seats is less (fat people cant travel comfortably)
*Luggage Problem
*Lack of PC on longer routes/ journey (AC pax dont prefer to get down to buy RAIL NEER/soft drinks etc )
*(Inputs welcomed)
.
Not to forget
*heavy investment and manpower in R&D
*RDSO trials and certificate
*CRS trails
*curve issues
*pf manipulation
.
The POINT is dont run DDs for d sake of running tag "DOUBLE DECKER" in the country.
its a waste exercise if its not ran in conducive way or optimum utilized.
.
But v hav witnessed certain DDs which r successful such as JP-DEE, ADI-BCT, MAS-SBC, LJN-ANVT but lets us clear that dese have become successful dont bcoz of DOUBLE DECKER concept but bcoz of route demanding a AC train. not to forget JP-DEE has 2 shat EC coaches.
.
another point
----------------
consider newly inaugurated LJN-ANVT DD which has 10 CC
so lets compare
10x120=1200 seats
15*78=1170 seats
What m trying to say is a icf shat can b easily ran with 15coaches carrying almost same no. of passengers
.
there r HBJ - INDB -BPL - INDB - HBJ DD which jst hav 3 coaches whereas it was said DD wud clear rush
what a joke !
instead of above DD, a simple ICE consisting of GEN, 2S, CC would do boon for passengers
.
Therefore, I wud suggest to run ICF shats without catering charges on wherever routes required.
.
Now dese existing DD sud b ran only on existing shat routes only.
I have heard manufacturing of DD has been stopped.
.
Last but not d least, some positive scope.
DDs wud b a assest where it can replace 24coacher or max coaches train with same comfort and everything....
(Courtesy: ABhishek SIngh)
.
Feedbacks plz !
(inputs also welcomed)
.
E&OE
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The Indian Railways introduced a new type of train called "AC Double Decker" on different routes in 2011. Some of the routes include Ahmedabad - Mumbai Central, Bhopal – Indore, Chennai - Bangalore, Guntur - Kacheguda, Habibganj - Indore Junction, Howrah – Dhanbad, Jaipur - Delhi Sarai Rohilla, Kacheguda - Tirupati, and Lucknow - Anand Vihar. Unfortunately, many of these trains were not successful due to issues like less legroom, narrow seats, luggage problems, and no refreshments on long journeys.
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...एसी डबल डेकर...
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Indian Railways ने 2011 में बहुत ज़़्ोर शोर से "एसी डबल डेकर" ट्रेन्स शुरू की। मुख्यमंत्री ममता बनर्जी के रेल मंत्रालय के दौरान इसे लांच किया गया।
WR अहमदाबाद - मुंबई सेंट्रल डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस
WCR भोपाल – इंदौर डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस [RSA]
SR चेन्नई - बैंगलोर डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस
SCR गुंटूर - काचिगुडा डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस [RSA] [बंद होने वाली है]
ECR हबीबगंज - इंदौर जंक्शन डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस [RSA]
ER हावड़ा – धनबाद डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस [बंद होने वाली है]
NWR ज़ैपुर - दिल्ली सराय रोहिल्ला डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस
SCR काचिगुडा - तिरुपति डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस [RSA] [बंद होने वाली है]
NER लखनऊ - आनंद विहार डबल डेकर एक्सप्रेस
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इनमें कुछ ट्रेनें सफल नहीं हो पाई क्योंकि:
*Kam Leg Room (Tange dab ke rehti hain)
*Seats ki Chaudi Kam hai (moti log confortable travel nahi kar sakte)
*Saman ka issue
*Lambay safar/ travel me PC ki kami (AC pax ko neer ya cold drink kharidne ke liye utarna pasand nahi hai)
*(Suggestion swagat hai)
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Matt bhulna
*Bhaari nivesh aur man shakti R&D me
*RDSO trials aur certificate
*CRS trials
*Curve issues
*Platform operation
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Mudda ye hai ki sirf showoff ke liye "DOUBLE DECKER" tag wale train chalani nahi chahiye.
Agar usko sahi tarah se chalaya nahi gaya ya optimal tareeke se istemal nahi kiya gaya to ye bekar hai.
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Lekin hame kuch DDs dekhne ko mile jo safal rahe jaise JP-DEE, ADI-BCT, MAS-SBC, LJN-ANVT, lekin clear kar dena chahiye ki ye safal nahi DOUBLE DECKER concept ke wajah se, balki AC train ki demand ki wajah se. JP-DEE me EC ke 2 shat bhi hain.
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Aur ek aur baat
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Consider karo abhi naye shuru huye LJN-ANVT DD ko jo 10 CC ke saath hai
Toh compare karo
10x120=1200 seats
15x78=1170 seats
Mera kehna hai ki ICF shat mein 15 coach aaram se chal sakte hain aur lagbhag utne hi log bhi le jayenge.
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HBJ - INDB - BPL - INDB - HBJ ki thode coaches matra 3 hain jabki bataya gaya tha ki ye rush ko kam karegi
Kya majak hai!
Upar wale DD ki jagah ek simple ICE jo ki GEN, 2S, CC se bana ho, passengers ke liye kamaal ka hoga.
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Isliye, Main suggest karunga ki jahan jarurat ho, catering charges ke bina ICF shat chalaye jaye.
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Ab ye mojooda DD sirf mojoodi shat routes pe chalaye jaayein.
Maine suna hai ki DD ka nirman band ho gaya hai.
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Ant mein, kuch positive scope bhi hai.
DDs waha bohot faydemand hai jahan ye 24 coach wali train ya zyada coaches wali train ko wahi suvidha and comfort provide kar sakti hain.
Shukriya: Abhishek Singh
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Feedback chahiye!
(Suggestions bhi welcome hain)
I guess Karnavati 4 Ac coaches should be replaced with 4 DD coaches....it would increase the capacity in AC Chair Car of Karnavati...Full train is LHB
Or one more idea is to convert Seating DD coach to Sleeper DD coaches(like in foreign countries where they run full AC DD trains of sleeper class) and run such full DD trains with Sleeper class....:)
Or one more idea is to convert Seating DD coach to Sleeper DD coaches(like in foreign countries where they run full AC DD trains of sleeper class) and run such full DD trains with Sleeper class....:)
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