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Blog Entry# 1935768
Posted: Jul 20 2016 (21:02)

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Jul 20 2016 (21:02)   GKP/Gorakhpur Junction (10 PFs)
 
Pratik~
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Entry# 1935768            Tags   Past Edits
Date of Receipt : 18 Mar 2016
Received by : Ministry of Railways, ( Railway Board)
Forwarded to : Electrical Engg Directorate
Contact Address : Room No 111 First Floor,
Rail Bhawan New Delhi
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Contact Number : 01123381869
Grievance Description : To Railway Board, Subject:- WAP-7 locomotive for upcoming GKP ELS From the pg reply I got for my previous MORLY/E/2016/04185, it is clear that JHS wont be allotted WAP-7 locomotives any sooner for trains like Pushpak Express, Sant Kabir Dham Express, Kushinagar Express, etc. Lucknow-Gorakhpur section of North-Eastern Railway will soon be electrified. Now, NER till date was a complete diesel hauled zone with no Electric Loco Shed under it. In such conditions, After the electrification of GKP-LJN section, Railway Board is requested to specially provide 3phase locomotive training to NER/GKP helping them to shed WAG-9 firstly and soon they should be able to shed WAP-7. Sant Kabir Dham, Kushinagar Express etc use WAP-7 of CR, when CR themselves have only 15 WAP-7 locomotives only. Many other CR trains need WAP-7 like 24 coach Pushpak, Vidarbha, Sevagram, etc
Current Status : CASE CLOSED
Date of Action : 08 Jul 2016
Details : Since, production of conventional tap changer locomotives has been stopped, sufficient no. of three phase locomotives will be provided to Gorakhpur electric loco shed in NER and training of staff will be planned as and when required.

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Jul 25 2016 (08:50)
WAP5CLW
WAP5CLW   93 blog posts
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You all guys are slogging it out unnecessary and its very important to set records straight. And let me do it for everyone who is involved in this dogfight.
@ KYN P-7: You are correct when it comes to GKP ELS. It is a long way to go in set up forget about WAP-5/WAP-7/WAG-9 allocations. And then high speed operation and so on .
Now Regarding P-7 VS P-5: You are going by the driver's versions and if you want to standby it please continue to do so because you are then
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living into a fool's paradise. When WAP-5,s were brought in GZB they have hauled all the major Rajdhani,s/Shatabdi,s trains when WAP-7,s were not there. Today's GZB WAP-5,s are much more older hence reliability issues are much more higher compared to new WAP-7,s. But if you look at the overall statistics of loco availability year wise WAP-5 availability is much better than WAP-7 or WAP-4. in terms of percentages.
All the trains which you have mentioned Mumbai Rajdhani,s , Kolkata Rajdhani,s Duronto,s were on GZB links. GZB has been shifting the link from WAP-5,s to WAP-7,s because at the time of departure this is the suitable loco which is available for operation. Now this does mean WAP-5,s are not fit for Rajdhani/Shatabdi operation but the availability of the coaching link is a factory because their are only 100 WAP-5,s today compared to 266 WAP-7,s. There are still trains today Rajdhani/Shatabdi which are hauled by WAP-5,s 12001/12002/12003/12004/12013/12014/12431/12432 and so on and so for.
Coming to demand for high speed travel. Your Tejas which is starting from GKP to NDLS is on the same concept 130KMPH ops with AC3 tier accommodation similar to Garib Rath this is where the demand is increasing. And when I mentioned this in my post I said especially between the Metros the demand is there. Today people spend 5000-6000 rupees fly Indigo rather than taking a rajdhani which including food will set me apart by around 5000. Don't compare people who travel SL class they are those people who would have never travelled a decade ago and today can afford a railway tkt. So the target market are different.
While WAP-7,s are good for today they will be redundant tommorrow because IR needs Semi High speed and High Speed trains .
To answer your question why AJNI/LGD are providing links is because NR has officially stated that with its lines coming under the wires their need for elocos have gone up; JAT got electrified; HW got electrified; LKO-BSB route got electrified. Hence lots of train links which were on GZB have been t/fed to WCR/WR/CR and their is a circular which was formally issued.
Also just for your information there will be a separated shed which would come up in Ajni for the DFC locos they will not be accommodated in the current shed. And a similar shed which would be much bigger is coming up in Saharanpur
@ HOG WAP-5: You are correct that's why when WAP-5 used to go down south to MAS/SC with the Rajdhani,s it was speed restricted.
Hope this will put an end to the debate.

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