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May 02 2020 (20:45) 12385/Howrah-Dhanbad AC Double Decker Express | HWH/Howrah Junction (23 PFs)
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Jan 26 2023 (08:15)
• The rake is supposed to bethe a prototype rake
• The first blow was during the trials, some coaches were grazed by the platform
The platform edges had to be trimmed a little at some stations
A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️
• This rake was not suitable for 130Kmph operations, and became restricted to 110Kmph
• When the rake first arrived from Kapurthala, scratch marks were seen all over the body which was when railway understood their mistake
This mistake was rectified in other rakes where coaches were made less wide
• The platform edges had to be immediately trimmed a little at several stations
A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️
• This rake was suitable for 130Kmph operations, but became restricted to 110Kmph because of wider body & oscillation matters
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 21 2022 (15:49)
• The rake is supposed to be the prototype rake
•The This train rake was not suitable for 130Kmph operations, and became restricted to 110Kmph
• The roof of thetrain rake once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 21 2022 (15:44)
• (as The per train CRS) was generally NOT allowed to run through DN Chord line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN 2nd line (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have reverse curve (representative image of DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN HBC line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN Slow lines (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have 'reverse curve' (representative image of 'reverse curve' on DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached)
• The traincould SHOULD only ONLY run through Rajdhani lines, i
e UP & Reverse line (in HWH SKG stretch), UP/DN1st Fast Line lines (in SKG-STN stretch), UP/DN GC lines (STN-DHN)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 01 2022 (19:52)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Apr 18 2022 (21:07)
• The train could only run through Rajdhani lines,UP/ i Reverse (as DN) line (HWH BWN), UP/DN 1st Line (BWN-STN), UP/DN GC (STN-DHN)
• e The UP train & had Reverse Permanent (platform (in number HWH in SKG brackets) stretch), - UP/DN 1st Line (in SKG-STN stretch), UP/DN GC (STN-DHN)
• The train had Permanent Speed Restrictions of 15Kmph at the following places over Rajdhani line (platform number indicated in brackets) -
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Apr 18 2022 (21:04)
A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Jul 12 2021 (02:19)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barachak Junction/BCQ added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barakar/BRR added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kumardubi/KMME added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kalubathan/KAO added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Asansol Junction/ASN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: RaniGanj/RNG added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Andal Junction/UDL added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Durgapur/DGR added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Panagarh/PAN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Mankar/MNAE added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Galsi/GLI added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barddhaman Junction/BWN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Saktigarh/SKG added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kamarkundu/KQU added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Baruipara/BRPA added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Dankuni Junction/DKAE added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Bally/BLY added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Belur/BEQ added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Liluah/LLH added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Howrah Junction/HWH added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Train Tag: Dhanbad - Howrah Double Dacker SpecialFare Chhath Puja Special/X02386 added by Returning to Life/1844918
Sep 08 2020 (18:36)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Sep 08 2020 (18:28)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN Chord line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN 2nd line (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have reverse curve (representative image of DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (21:07)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN Chord line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN 2nd line(BWN-ASN-BWN) (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have reverse curve
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (21:00)
• Hence, the slot & schedule was prepared to depart the train in afternoon from Howrah, and a morning departure fromDhanbad Dhanbad, just ahead of Rajdhani Express (reference attached)
(reference attached)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:57)
Similarly in return the passengers ended up at 11PM at night, very inconvenient for many travellers, whereas the Ranchi Shatabdi & Black Diamond was always a more convenient option to Kolkata
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:53)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seatac AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:53)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How muchsmart & logical will it be to run it to run a 900 seat ac train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:50)
• The roof of the train once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic
The train on previous slot, was colliding with slots of other trains in DNdirection, direction & platform availability was becoming an issue at Howrah, so the train was put on a new slot, to depart Howrah in morning, and Dhanbad in evening arriving Howrah very late at around 23 hours
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much smart & logical will it be to run it to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:48)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much smart & logical will it be to run it to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:48)
The 900 seats of this train could not be filled, so coaches reduced, ultimately the train stopped!
• The rake is supposed to be
• When the rake first arrived from Kapurthala, scratch marks were seen all over the body which was when railway understood their mistake
This mistake was rectified in other rakes where coaches were made less wide
• The platform edges had to be immediately trimmed a little at several stations
A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️
• This rake was suitable for 130Kmph operations, but became restricted to 110Kmph because of wider body & oscillation matters
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 21 2022 (15:49)
• The rake is supposed to be the prototype rake
•
• The roof of the
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 21 2022 (15:44)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN HBC line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN Slow lines (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have 'reverse curve' (representative image of 'reverse curve' on DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached)
• The train
e UP & Reverse line (in HWH SKG stretch), UP/DN
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Aug 01 2022 (19:52)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Apr 18 2022 (21:07)
• The train could only run through Rajdhani lines,
• The train had Permanent Speed Restrictions of 15Kmph at the following places over Rajdhani line (platform number indicated in brackets) -
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Apr 18 2022 (21:04)
A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Jul 12 2021 (02:19)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barachak Junction/BCQ added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barakar/BRR added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kumardubi/KMME added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kalubathan/KAO added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Asansol Junction/ASN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: RaniGanj/RNG added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Andal Junction/UDL added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Durgapur/DGR added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Panagarh/PAN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Mankar/MNAE added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Galsi/GLI added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Barddhaman Junction/BWN added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Saktigarh/SKG added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Kamarkundu/KQU added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Baruipara/BRPA added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Dankuni Junction/DKAE added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Bally/BLY added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Belur/BEQ added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Liluah/LLH added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Station Tag: Howrah Junction/HWH added by Returning to Life/1844918
Nov 08 2020 (20:23)
Train Tag: Dhanbad - Howrah Double Dacker SpecialFare Chhath Puja Special/X02386 added by Returning to Life/1844918
Sep 08 2020 (18:36)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
Sep 08 2020 (18:28)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN Chord line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN 2nd line (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have reverse curve (representative image of DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (21:07)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN Chord line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN 2nd line
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (21:00)
• Hence, the slot & schedule was prepared to depart the train in afternoon from Howrah, and a morning departure from
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:57)
Similarly in return the passengers ended up at 11PM at night, very inconvenient for many travellers, whereas the Ranchi Shatabdi & Black Diamond was always a more convenient option to Kolkata
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:53)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat
May 02 2020 (20:53)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much
May 02 2020 (20:50)
• The roof of the train once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic
The train on previous slot, was colliding with slots of other trains in DN
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much smart & logical will it be to run it to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:48)
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much smart & logical will it be to run it to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
May 02 2020 (20:48)
The 900 seats of this train could not be filled, so coaches reduced, ultimately the train stopped!
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◾Dhanbad Double Decker - Operational Constraints◾
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The Dhanbad Double Decker Express was stopped just within 5 years of its service. People have a lot of anticipation for this train, some want it to restart on same route, some want it to run towards Siliguri. There are many limitations for this train, rake as well as path. Lets see-
• The train was...
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The Dhanbad Double Decker Express was stopped just within 5 years of its service. People have a lot of anticipation for this train, some want it to restart on same route, some want it to run towards Siliguri. There are many limitations for this train, rake as well as path. Lets see-
• The train was...
more...
proposed as High-speed connection to Dhanbad, and was expected to run just ahead of Kolkata Rajdhani Exp in both directions.
• The rake is supposed to be a prototype.
• When the rake first arrived from Kapurthala, scratch marks were seen all over the body which was when railway understood their mistake. This mistake was rectified in other rakes where coaches were made less wide.
• The platform edges had to be immediately trimmed a little at several stations. A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️ click here
• This rake was suitable for 130Kmph operations, but became restricted to 110Kmph because of wider body & oscillation matters.
• The roof of the rake once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic.
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◾ Special instructions for operation of 12385/6 Dhanbad Double Decker Express ◾
(as per CRS)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN HBC line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN Slow lines (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have 'reverse curve' (representative image of 'reverse curve' on DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached). If was run through above lines, it had to maintain Speed Restriction of 15kmph at every platform line!
• The train SHOULD ONLY run through Rajdhani lines, i.e UP & Reverse line (in HWH SKG stretch), UP/DN Fast lines (in SKG-STN stretch), UP/DN GC lines (STN-DHN)
• The train had Permanent Speed Restrictions of 15Kmph at the following places over Rajdhani line (platform number indicated in brackets) -
≠In UP direction - Howrah (8,9,13), Bally (5), Saktigarh (1), Galsi (2), Asansol (4), Sitarampur (1), Barakar (1), Kumardubi (1)
≠In DN direction - Kalubathan (2), Asansol (5), Raniganj (3), Barddhaman (5), Belur (4), Liluah (4), Howrah (8,9,13)
• Hence, the slot & schedule was prepared to depart the train in afternoon from Howrah, and a morning departure from Dhanbad, just ahead of Rajdhani Express (reference attached)
.
◾How things became worse?◾
• Things were more or less fine,train was getting some passengers, suddenly the slot was changed. The train on previous slot, was colliding with slots of other trains in DN direction & platform availability was becoming an issue at Howrah, so the train was put on a new slot, to depart Howrah in morning, and Dhanbad in evening arriving Howrah very late at around 23 hours. (the DN locals making it more late at night)
• The train departed just after Poorva in Up direction, so that it doesn't block path of any other train, while it departed in evening from Dhanbad, so that it could use DN Reverse line b/w SKG-DKAE (as the reverse line works as UP line throughout the evening, so a night slot was fine to get the track traffic-free)
• In morning, Ranchi Shatabdi, Black Diamond Exp & Hool Express takes away a good load of Passengers. Similarly in return the passengers ended up at 11PM at night, very inconvenient for many travellers, whereas the Ranchi Shatabdi & Black Diamond was always a more convenient option to Kolkata. The 900 seats of this train could not be filled, so coaches reduced, ultimately the train stopped!
.
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
• The rake is supposed to be a prototype.
• When the rake first arrived from Kapurthala, scratch marks were seen all over the body which was when railway understood their mistake. This mistake was rectified in other rakes where coaches were made less wide.
• The platform edges had to be immediately trimmed a little at several stations. A detailed report from press is supposed to be available in the link ➡️ click here
• This rake was suitable for 130Kmph operations, but became restricted to 110Kmph because of wider body & oscillation matters.
• The roof of the rake once touched overhead wires at Howrah yard in busy time, disrupting the traffic.
.
◾ Special instructions for operation of 12385/6 Dhanbad Double Decker Express ◾
(as per CRS)
• The train was generally NOT allowed to run through DN HBC line (BWN-DKAE), UP & DN Slow lines (BWN-STN-BWN) as the platforms have 'reverse curve' (representative image of 'reverse curve' on DN HBC PF of MDSE stn attached). If was run through above lines, it had to maintain Speed Restriction of 15kmph at every platform line!
• The train SHOULD ONLY run through Rajdhani lines, i.e UP & Reverse line (in HWH SKG stretch), UP/DN Fast lines (in SKG-STN stretch), UP/DN GC lines (STN-DHN)
• The train had Permanent Speed Restrictions of 15Kmph at the following places over Rajdhani line (platform number indicated in brackets) -
≠In UP direction - Howrah (8,9,13), Bally (5), Saktigarh (1), Galsi (2), Asansol (4), Sitarampur (1), Barakar (1), Kumardubi (1)
≠In DN direction - Kalubathan (2), Asansol (5), Raniganj (3), Barddhaman (5), Belur (4), Liluah (4), Howrah (8,9,13)
• Hence, the slot & schedule was prepared to depart the train in afternoon from Howrah, and a morning departure from Dhanbad, just ahead of Rajdhani Express (reference attached)
.
◾How things became worse?◾
• Things were more or less fine,train was getting some passengers, suddenly the slot was changed. The train on previous slot, was colliding with slots of other trains in DN direction & platform availability was becoming an issue at Howrah, so the train was put on a new slot, to depart Howrah in morning, and Dhanbad in evening arriving Howrah very late at around 23 hours. (the DN locals making it more late at night)
• The train departed just after Poorva in Up direction, so that it doesn't block path of any other train, while it departed in evening from Dhanbad, so that it could use DN Reverse line b/w SKG-DKAE (as the reverse line works as UP line throughout the evening, so a night slot was fine to get the track traffic-free)
• In morning, Ranchi Shatabdi, Black Diamond Exp & Hool Express takes away a good load of Passengers. Similarly in return the passengers ended up at 11PM at night, very inconvenient for many travellers, whereas the Ranchi Shatabdi & Black Diamond was always a more convenient option to Kolkata. The 900 seats of this train could not be filled, so coaches reduced, ultimately the train stopped!
.
• Now with so many running restrictions in the Rajdhani line itself, How much logical will it be to run to run a 900 seat AC train to any other destinations? The answer remains debated!
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5 Public Posts - Sat May 02, 2020
Very much agree with you the slot should morning 530 at Dhanbad and evening 1730 from HWH with 5-6 days with no service on sat from HWH and Sun from DND would be great. Operational constraints is biggest hurdle in IR to operate according to traveller requirement.
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1 Public Posts - Sat May 16, 2020