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Blog Entry# 5827124
Posted: Sep 21 2023 (16:39)

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Last Response: Sep 21 2023 (20:48)
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Sep 21 2023 (16:39)   14211/Agra Cantt - New Delhi Intercity Express | GWL/Gwalior Junction (4 PFs)
Rohittkarwal^~
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Some Accounts (belonging to a particular brigade) have a dropped a proposal to extend 14211 Agra Cantt - New Delhi Intercity Express, permanently to Gwalior. I writing a separate post as I believe they might have blocked me, because it's available in public version, but not available when I'm logged in.


Subject Line - Extension Champions support their claims by giving
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justification of Regular extension of Intercity Express to Gwalior which is generally seen during Gurupurima and Krishna Janamashtmi.
They also say let's detach it's RSA from Gomti Express and let NCR Jhansi Division give them a seperate rake to Gwalior for it's operations.

I have some points against this proposals, and are open for discussion.
1. It's okay to extend Agra Intercity Express upto Gwalior, but Will gwalior extend it's Bundelkhand Express, Barauni Mail or Chambal Express to Agra/Mathura to vacant it's stabling lines and accommodate Intercity Express?
Barauni Mail occupies for around 17 hours, Bundelkhand Express for around 11 hours and Chambal Express for around 10 hours.

2. If Jhansi Division provides a new rake for Intercity Express where and how would they operate it, already choking stabling lines, platforms.

3. Rather Extending Agra Intercity Express I would propose Jhansi-Agra Intercity cum Passenger to Extend upto Nizamuddin, (as earlier their was a daily passenger used to run between delhi and jhansi, later broken down into Delhi-Agra, Agra-Jhansi). This is also cater needs of Gwalior, also daily pax which board trains between Agra-Delhi.

4. After Gita Jayanti Extension, now this is the only express connectivity left for daily pax to reach delhi on daily basis, why are people just to safeguard their so called demanda are busy asking for extensions no matter it might hurt the ease of other passengers?

5. Will Gwalior really prefer a train arriving Gwalior Late night and departing early morning with Slack timings?

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Sep 21 2023 (17:17)
S_V_Iyer^~
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Just a thought.. Trying to understand:

If a stand alone rake be provided to AGC ICE and run with following timings what will be the impact ?

14211
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dep 04:30
AGC arr/dep 06:30/06:45
NDLS 11:10

14212
NDLS 17:40
AGC 21:20/35
GWL 23:55

Seperate Quota /earmarked coaches for AGC passengers to be identified

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Sep 21 2023 (17:46)
Rohittkarwal^~
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This train has probably got nothing to do with quota I believe CC, 1A can have an impact not to 2S.
2S generally filled with UR, MTS ticket passenger which travel in the train on daily basis, If train gets delayed all of this coaches run empty.
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Sep 21 2023 (18:10)
S_V_Iyer^~
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So the crux is movement of office goers. Then the existing arrangement should continue. ICE should retain its original TT between AGC and NDLS.

However, IR can consider terminating this train at NZM and run a service from NZM. NZM because NDLS is already congested and 14211 specially has punctuality issues big time. With NZM getting proper Metro connection, it will easily cater the crowd of office goers.
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Sep 21 2023 (20:48)
Rohittkarwal^~
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Agree
NR is itself so much confused. They are not able to decide what their actually priority is.
On the name of RSA and rake utilisation they ruined Intercity, Taj, Shan e Punjab and many more trains.
Also they extended these trains to NDLS, which was meant to decongest the station.
The above mentioned trains have lost their prestige, punctuality as soon
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as they good shifted to NDLS, extension to NDLS is also gifted with huge amount of slack which increase overall runtime of a train.

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