Spotting
 Timeline
 Travel Tip
 Trip
 Race
 Social
 Greeting
 Poll
 Img
 PNR
 Pic
 Blog
 News
 Conf TL
 RF Club
 Convention
 Monitor
 Topic
 #
 Rating
 Correct
 Wrong
 Stamp
 PNR Ref
 PNR Req
 Blank PNRs
 HJ
 Vote
 Pred
 @
 FM Alert
 FM Approval
 Pvt

RailCal app

site support

Once upon a time, there was a great king called Vikramaditya - the WAM-4 - Shashank

Search Forum
<<prev entry    next entry>>
Blog Entry# 1988395
Posted: Sep 11 2016 (17:51)

7 Responses
Last Response: Sep 13 2016 (19:09)
Poll
3223 views
24 votes
0

Sep 11 2016 (17:51)  
 
ballistic~
ballistic~   1111 blog posts
Entry# 1988395              
Which could be a better & practical route for compansating Indore Bhopal double decker project failure.
Translate to English
Translate to Hindi
NO vote
GWL-BPL-JBP
0%
0
CNB-ETW-GWL-BPL
4%
1
GWL-INDB
13%
3
INDB-GUNA-BINA-SGO-JBP
0%
0
INDB-BPL-JBP
25%
6
Other ( Comment Your Option )
4%
1
Not feasible in Madhya Pradesh
54%
13

2 Posts

1437 views
2

Sep 13 2016 (18:09)
I.R.needrejuvenation~
I.R.needrejuvenation~   1946 blog posts
Re# 1988395-3              
I doubt any over night journey in relatively uncomfortable ac DD chair car (as compared to normal accc) will be successful. Such sleepless and spine breaking long overnight journeys shall be a physical as well as mental torture for the passengers.
Why run ac DDCC train at night when even the daytime ACDD trains are mostly failures? It would be better to replace ac chaircars of the crowded full length shatabdies like NDLS-LKO, NDLS-ASR, NDLS-HBJ etc along with the LHBfied (as acDDccs are not Self generating) ones among a large number of highly patronised chaircar trains like Karnavati, Gomati, Brindavan, Lalbagh, Shan-e-punjab, Pinakini, Vaigai etc with the idle ac Double decker coaches to carry more passengers and increase the much needed
...
more...
revenue.
No ACDD Express other than BCT-ADI, DSR-JP are worth continuing as AC DD Express. In rest of others acDDtrains, Second class LHB coaches (Single/double deck) may be added in order to serve more passengers and earn more revenue.

Translate to English
Translate to Hindi

1378 views
0

Sep 13 2016 (18:31)
SaurabhDubey^~
SaurabhDubey^~   30246 blog posts
Re# 1988395-4               Past Edits
There is already an jbp indr overnight exp departing jbp at 11 pm which has quite ok patronage.If need be 3a coaches can be increased in that train to reach full length of 24. only problem is it's loose TT which should be tightened.
Translate to English
Translate to Hindi

1433 views
0

Sep 13 2016 (19:01)
Jordan~
Jordan~   8158 blog posts
Re# 1988395-5              
Yes of course DD chair cars will be useless for night journeys
I was actually referring about upgrading JBP-INDB Express to an UDAY kind of train {they're going to have DD AC sleepers right?)
Translate to English
Translate to Hindi

1543 views
2

Sep 13 2016 (19:01)
I.R.needrejuvenation~
I.R.needrejuvenation~   1946 blog posts
Re# 1988395-6              
No other pair of cities in MP has inter city traffic anywhere near the existing traffic between INDB-BPL. In present setup INDB-BPL acDD is a failure inspite of a good traffic between the two cities mainly due to more railway distance of about 225km (via Maksi-Dewas Chord), abt. 265km (via UJN) as compared to about road distance of abt. 180km, more time taken by the acDD express and more fare.
Even the HBJ/BPL-IND DD could be successful if following are done:
(1) Reduce the fare of the cc as the cost per seat
...
more...
of acDD coach is much lesser than the normal ac chaircar. If IRlys remains contended with just a a decent profit, and pass on the benefit to passengers by reducing the fare, then passengers shall prefer this train over pvt car, shared taxies and luxury buses. Laluji reduced Garib Raths fare of acIII berths by increasing the number of berths per coach marginally from 64 to 72. But Didi in-spite of being more people friendly, did not reduce the fare of acDDcc seat even after drastically increasing the number of seats per coach from about 78/80 to 120/128. Had IR passed on the additional cost benefit to passengers and lowered acDDcc fare, the acDD trains could have been a roaring success like GR.
(2) Routing it through shorter path 224 km and giving aggressive time slot, covering the distance in about 3 hrs to match/beat the fast buses and taxies. This could be possible now as congestion at INDB station has been eliminated with line doubling to Laxmibai nagar. After completion of the Dewas-INDB doubling and upgradation of Dewas Maksi line, such timing is easily possible. Separate train to UJN may be provided with same rake if traffic permits. No body like to travel BPL-IND via UJN due to more journey time & higher fare.
(3) Add LHB second class Chaircars (Single/Double decker) i.e. operate longer train so that more passengers can be served and more revenue can be generated.
(4) Do a survey of about 90km long straight line (short cut) which start at Dewas and join UJN-BPL line near/at Sehore. If distance (actual about 90km) on this new track is inflated by 50% and fares are charged for 135 km, still the total chargeable distance between INDB-BPL could still be a 215-220km only (very competitive). With this inflated distance, this newline project could be very profitable one. Much lesser journey time, saving in fuel consumption, more trips per rake and possibility of newer connectivies from BPL/IND to other cities through the new section etc are main benefits. DDexpress can cover BPL-IND (175km) in 2.5 hrs with brief stop at Dewas (may be at Sehore if traffic permit). This situation is a potent game changer for IRlys especially for attracting traffic in IND-BPL section.

Translate to English
Translate to Hindi

1445 views
0

Sep 13 2016 (19:09)
I.R.needrejuvenation~
I.R.needrejuvenation~   1946 blog posts
Re# 1988395-7              
But there had been no official communication from IRly regarding any development activities going on for ac dd sleeper coaches. I had earlier advocted need for R&D in AC DD (ACIItier) coaches with pricing much lower than the normal ACII tier coaches. There can be low cost ac DD cabins akin to ACI, which may be very popular in trains going to tourist places. This is need of the hour especially keeping in view the strong intention of IRlys to operate SHS trains in a big way in near future.
Many exciting possibilities are there, but IRlys have to make up their mind to go after such innovative thoughts.
Translate to English
Translate to Hindi
Scroll to Top
Scroll to Bottom
Go to Desktop site
Important Note: This website NEVER solicits for Money or Donations. Please beware of anyone requesting/demanding money on behalf of IRI. Thanks.
Disclaimer: This website has NO affiliation with the Government-run site of Indian Railways. This site does NOT claim 100% accuracy of fast-changing Rail Information. YOU are responsible for independently confirming the validity of information through other sources.
India Rail Info Privacy Policy