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12721/Dakshin SF Express (PT)
दक्षिण सुपरफास्ट एक्सप्रेस

SC/Secunderabad Junction --> BPL/Bhopal Junction

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Jan 22 2020 (13:27) शहरवासियों ने बचाईं ट्रेनें, डबरा और दतिया में स्टॉपेज खतरे में (www.naidunia.com)
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Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Station Tag: Morena/MRA added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Station Tag: Dabra/DBA added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Station Tag: Datia/DAA added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Station Tag: Gwalior Junction/GWL added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Train Tag: Karnataka Sampark Kranti Express (Via Kacheguda)/12649 added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Train Tag: KSR Bengaluru - Hazrat Nizamuddin Rajdhani Express/22691 added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Train Tag: MGR Chennai Central - Hazrat Nizamuddin Garib Rath Express/12611 added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927

Jan 22 2020 (13:27)
Train Tag: Madurai - Dehradun SF Express/12687 added by Its time 4 Singrauli Exp~/1887927
Trains:  Dakshin SF Express/12721   Dakshin SF Express/12722   Madurai - Dehradun SF Express/12687X   Dehradun - Madurai SF Express/12688X   M.G.R. Chennai Central - Hazrat Nizamuddin Garib Rath Express/12611   Bhusaval - Hazrat Nizamuddin Gondwana SF Express/12405   Hazrat Nizamuddin - Bhusaval Gondwana SF Express/12406   Raigarh - Hazrat Nizamuddin Gondwana Express/12409   Hazrat Nizamuddin - Raigarh Gondwana Express/12410   Hirakud SF Express/20807   Hirakud SF Express/20808   Jabalpur - Shri Mata Vaishno Devi Katra Weekly Express/11449   Shridham SF Express/12192   Jhelum Express/11077   Jhelum Express/11078   Karnataka Sampark Kranti Express (Via Ballari)/12649   Karnataka Sampark Kranti Express (Via Ballari)/12650   Shridham SF Express/12191   K.S.R. Bengaluru - Hazrat Nizamuddin Rajdhani Express/22691   Hazrat Nizamuddin - K.S.R. Bengaluru Rajdhani Express/22692   Sachkhand Express/12715   Sachkhand Express/12716   Rani Kamlapati (HabibGanj) - New Delhi Shatabdi Express/12001   New Delhi - Rani Kamlapati (HabibGanj) Shatabdi Express/12002   Taj Express/12279   Taj Express/12280   Khajuraho - Udaipur City Express/19665   Patalkot Express/14623   Patalkot Express/14624   Sabarmati - Gwalior SF Express/22548   Gwalior - Sabarmati SF Express/22547  
Stations:  Datia/DAA   Dabra/DBA   Gwalior Junction/GWL   Morena/MRA  
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Avinashhh007
Avinashhh007   42 blog posts
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Stats of annual passengers earning year 2016-17 shows Gwalior's daily avg no. of ticket booked were 23,825 and Jhansi's were 24, 969 (1000+ more than gwl). Now as per the annual pax earning goes Gwl = 183.04cr and Jhs = 172.08cr. this proves your statement of Volvo vs Parivan buses absolutely correct. Gwl is infact a Volvo with less no. of pax with whopping 11cr more revenue and Jhansi is overcrowded 3rd class bus. At that time Jhansi had 120+ more trains than Gwl. only 3 vip trains had stoppage at gwl which includes chennai Raj, Garib Rath and Bhopal Shatabdi. Gwl people have every reason to travel to Jhansi whereas Jhansi had none. Now as per latest info Gwl's daily footfall being 4500 more than Jhs's and with more vip trains getting halt including Gatimaan, B'lore Raj, Chennai Duronto and many more. Also Gwl-ahmedabad exp originating from gwl. (Which gives...
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jhs people atlast a reason to board a train from gwl). The annual passengers earning no. would easily be more than 25-30cr in favour of Gwl. In terms of passengers facilities gwl still proves to be better than jhs. There is a huge Mall just outside the gwl rly stn. where as Jhansi has none. And the reason for jhansi being overcrowded and "Producing hardly any difference in no. of passengers" is because of people coming from the Mau, Mahoba, Orai to catch delhi bound trains and people from gwl, dabra, datia and morena boarding mumbai/south bound trains from jhs. If gwl etawah kanpur route gets 20% of the no. of trains that jhs kanpur route has and if all skipping trains gets a halt at gwl than the difference in no. will be even more.

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Jan 24 2020 (11:41)
Gwalior
Gwalior   169 blog posts
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It is quite obvious when the no. Of stops of trains are more in Jhansi almost 120 as u said hence no. Of passengers must be more.
But having a difference of 10crores in revenue is a big no. Gwalior is generating more than Jhansi. Hence for all d trains stop should also be provided in gwalior and for some trains it should be skipped at jhansi.
Earlier when there was no direct flight from Gwalior to Hyderabad one of my friend travel in train from Gwalior to Jhansi to board Secumderabad Rajdhani
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as it is not having halt in Gwalior.
Also if Kanpur Etawah Bhind line is not giving importance due to politics of Jhansi. Though goods trains are running thru this route. The earnings of Gwalior will be more and will become much more then jhansi.
Also for narrowguage route as per news avg 6000 passengers travels daily if this route was converted to broad guage though not done just because of politics of Jhansi. Earnings would have been more.
Thus Jhansi is responsible for putting railway in debt.

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Jan 24 2020 (11:43)
Gwalior
Gwalior   169 blog posts
Re# 4546060-44               Past Edits
From where u got this data pls send link
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Jan 24 2020 (11:58)
Avinashhh007
Avinashhh007   42 blog posts
Re# 4546060-45               Past Edits
Just type "annual passenger" in the search box on this forum. Attached a file as well.
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Jan 24 2020 (12:40)
SanchiExpress~
SanchiExpress~   1168 blog posts
Re# 4546060-46              
Here you go.. all the data for all stations
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Jan 20 2020 (16:14) हैदराबाद दक्षिण का साथ छोड़ेगी तीन दशक पुरानी विशाखापट्टनम लिंक ट्रेन (www.patrika.com)
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News Entry# 399383   
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Jan 20 2020 (16:14)
Station Tag: Itarsi Junction/ET added by Required Goa train From Nagpur🤠😎~/886143

Jan 20 2020 (16:14)
Train Tag: Dakshin SF Express/12721 added by Required Goa train From Nagpur🤠😎~/886143
इटारसी. करीबन तीन दशक से भी अधिक समय से चल रही हैदराबाद- निजामुद्दीन दक्षिण एक्सप्रेस का साथ विशाखापट्टनम- निजामुद्दीन को जाने वाली दक्षिण लिंक सुपरफास्ट एक्सप्रेस...

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Jan 21 2020 (00:38)
Chetan~
Chetan~   4280 blog posts
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Chandigarh tak extend kr dena chaheye ,possible bhi hoga
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Jan 21 2020 (00:45)
Rohittkarwal^~
Rohittkarwal^~   11275 blog posts
Re# 4544641-22               Past Edits
Koi zarurat nahi hai. Agar ye bhi chandigarh gayi toh barbaad ho jayegi. Baaki trains ki tarah. Delhi bas apni trains ko priority deta hai north bound trains late hoti hein zada. eg Malwa, MDU DDN, Andaman, Kalinga Utkal, Punjab Mail, Jhelum, Hirakund etc. even chandigarh ksk.
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Jan 21 2020 (00:47)
Chetan~
Chetan~   4280 blog posts
Re# 4544641-23              
Ok bro...
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Jan 21 2020 (09:15)
hizmzm^~
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Re# 4544641-24              
Sgnr - Ned and co. is there at 23:45 slot already till ET. So might not be possible for 11:40pm slot.
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Jan 21 2020 (09:17)
hizmzm^~
hizmzm^~   2944 blog posts
Re# 4544641-25              
Vaise Amritsar ka proposal tha, last year, along with delinking and all. Toh proposal k logic se ASR extension hoga. But yes CDG seems more feasible.
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Jan 02 2020 (11:58) हबीबगंज-इटारसी के बीच दो घंटे खड़ी रहीं छह ट्रेनें, हजारों यात्री परेशान हुए (www.naidunia.com)
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News Entry# 397844   
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Jan 02 2020 (11:58)
Station Tag: Bhopal Junction/BPL added by Adittyaa Sharma^~/1421836

Jan 02 2020 (11:58)
Station Tag: Itarsi Junction/ET added by Adittyaa Sharma^~/1421836

Jan 02 2020 (11:58)
Station Tag: HabibGanj/HBJ added by Adittyaa Sharma^~/1421836
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Oct 31 2019 (22:40) Delinking of Dakshin express Slip coaches. (www.railpost.in)
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News Entry# 394191   
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Oct 31 2019 (22:40)
Train Tag: Dakshin SF Express/12721 added by Ranjeet~/1732634
As per the latest circular of the Railway Board, the 12721/22 Dakshin express would become an independent train and the slip coaches of the Visakhapatnam-Kazipet express...

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Nov 03 2019 (09:43)
Goawaychinaviru
Goawaychinaviru   949 blog posts
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AFAIK, most platforms at major stations were made long enough to accommodate 26 ICF coachers (Sometimes regular 24 coachers had either inspection cars and/or special extra coaches attached). These could easily accommodate 24 coacher LHBs. Smaller stations may not have the required length for the platforms, but that can be increased (Won't be as difficult as it would be at major stations).
IMO, In busy seasons, a couple of extra coaches should be attached (to 22 coach LHBs) to clear the rush of passengers. 100-150 more passengers could get confirmed tickets per trip.
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Nov 03 2019 (10:08)
TheMadrasMail~
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I agree that the rake length should be increased. Just pointing out some issues here.
The platform length increase was not implemented rigorously. Many of the major stations have long platforms, but the platform length has not been standardized across all stations. So you may have some stations on the route having long platforms, while most of the medium/small stations don't. This won't be a problem if it's only a few trains having longer rakes, but it will be a problem if longer rakes become the norm.
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doesn't mean much. The signalling, fouling points etc also have to be moved so that the full platform can be used.
For example, one of the platforms at Secunderabad (SC), I believe it is PF3 or PF4, is long enough to hold 24 coach rakes. But the points (where the track merges with the other tracks) are too close to one end of the platform. So, some space at the end of the platform is useless, as there is a safety margin to be followed here. Because of this, the platform can only hold shorter rakes, despite being long enough. ( I don't know if this has been rectified now)
Similar issues may be present at most stations that seemingly have long platforms. This restricts the number of platforms that can be used for such long rakes, making things difficult for the controllers.
Again, not an unsolvable problem, but not a simple one to fix either, as it will require yard modifications at many places.

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Nov 03 2019 (10:17)
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Yes, Lucknow mail was reduced back to 22 coaches from 24 after the terminal shifted to ljn as pf length was shorter and signal points were close by
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Nov 03 2019 (10:18)
TheMadrasMail~
TheMadrasMail~   6349 blog posts
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One more issue that rarely gets mentioned, is the capacity of the EOGs and the HOG. Adding more coaches adds more electrical load on these systems. They may develop unwanted harmonics (secondary characteristics in the power supply) because of the increase in the rake length.
This would be an even larger problem to handle as all the EOGs and the HOG systems in locomotives would have to be upgraded to the new specifications.
This is potentially an issue in this case as, particularly in IR, we have a tendency to always
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implement systems that 'just' meet' the needs. We usually leave very small margins for updates and expansions.
Most stations have platforms and loop lines that are 'just' long enough for the longest rakes of that time. The locomotives are typically just powerful enough to handle the largest loads of that time.
It is such philosophy that is the main hurdle in transitioning smoothly to newer technologies, and optimizing operations (in this case, increasing the LHB rake length).

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Nov 03 2019 (11:30)
Goawaychinaviru
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Yes, I know these problems. Which is why I mentioned attaching a couple of coaches in the busy season, not as a permanent basis till such lacunae are rectified.
Power may not be much of an issue for mixed rakes as only one EOG is used. It may pose some problem with full AC rake with pantry. Presently, P7 power capacity is being ramped up by 500 HP. It may be in line with providing more power with HOG. With 100% track electrification in sight, next couple of years might see most trains with electric power end-to-end.
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platforms at major stations do have required length from where most popular and prestigious trains operate. What I suggested was attaching couple of extra coaches to such trains only in busy seasons when wait list turns into regret.

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